• Join Premium & Save
      Join Premium & Save
    • Huge Range of Ford Parts
      Huge Range of Ford Parts
    • Savings Up to 15% Off For Members
      Savings Up to 15% Off For Members
    • 1000's Of Fords For Sale
      1000's Of Fords For Sale
    • Get Your Club gear
      Get Your Club gear
    • Share Your Car Experience
      Share Your Car Experience


WES180

Focus Zetec S 180 V's Fiesta St 180

Recommended Posts

looks like the fiesta original map has been done with simular peak power outputs to the focus but the fiesta looks like a slower build up in torque to compensate for lower kerb weight. thats my theory, so engines are same , just the way its mapped is different

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 

They are missing a trick then as it would only need to be worded "also fits 1.6 Ecoboost Focus Zetec S" to appeal to the likes of myself and fellow owners.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

looks like the fiesta original map has been done with simular peak power outputs to the focus but the fiesta looks like a slower build up in torque to compensate for lower kerb weight. thats my theory, so engines are same , just the way its mapped is different

Thanks Ian, you should know as you work on them daily. You could have answered this weeks ago!:D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Superchips do mis-sell their maps slightly.

They compare their peak vs the manufacturer's stated output. Despite the actual recorded performance at stock being higher than the stated figures.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not sure what the 160 means - Fraud did make a 160ps ecoboost but it wasn't fitted to the Focus as far as I can tell

Your engine must be the 185ps / 182bhp / 136kw version ( I think ) :) Wes - identical to the Fiesta ST

ecoboost 1.6 160ps in the titanium

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Does anyone know if the Focus ST 250 has a larger intercooler than the Focus Zetec S? I was just looking on Mountune and the 215ps kit for the Fiesta ST doesnt include an intercooler but the Focus Zetec S 200ps kit does. I was thinking if the Focus ST 250 has a larger intercooler it may be a simple upgrade that still looks factory fitted if i sourced a used item.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would expect the intercooler to be physically bigger on my Focus ST as it has a larger engine capacity & probably a different turbo setup - amongst other air critical differences ?

As always i'll happily stand corrected :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

will see what i can find out.

Cheers Ian. Just thinking if it is larger i might be able to pick one up cheap from someone thats upgraded their ST.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

they both fit in the same location using the same bolts etc, but the 1600 has an extra small bore pipe fitting near the mapt tensor on intercooler, cant see whats that for yet. as it fits in the same location i would imagine the 2.0 st its a thicker section , and larger bore at each end.

bet the original 2.0 st intercooler is not cheap

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my little intercooler on my 1.0 got an electric cooling fan bolted to it to reduce heat sink at low speed/stationary. must work as my bat seems to not get too high even with bluefin.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They will start popping up on ebay Ian as people are upgrading theirs. There are ST225 ones for under £50.

It will be handy if you find out what the extra pipes for as it will help anyone else thinking of swapping their intercoolers too. I take it that there is no outlet on the ST unit for the pipe to connect to then?

Ive just looked on Autospecialists website and seen the small outlet you mean although the intercooler for the Fiesta ST doesnt have it.:huh:

Is it anything to do with the grille shutters or does my 2012 Focus not even have those?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem mate. Thanks for looking. I will have a look at mine next time its up on the ramps to see where the extra pipe goes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The focus 150 ps is the same engine as the fiesta st but its detuned to 150 and with a stage 1 map you can have these tuned to 215 bhp but technically its only like 35bhp increase as its the detuned 180 also your torque goes up to 340

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The focus 150 ps is the same engine as the fiesta st but its detuned to 150 and with a stage 1 map you can have these tuned to 215 bhp but technically its only like 35bhp increase as its the detuned 180 also your torque goes up to 340

Is it the same in all aspects bar the map?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As stated earlier in this thread I think the 215bhp is the figure with the temporary overboost feature. Maybe Mountune quote the base figure without it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now