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#1 Jcoventry

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:08 PM

On my 2008 Ford Ka with just 6,000 miles from new, I noticed on Sunday while doing the weekly checks, that there is water underneath the carpet in the driver's footwell. If I press down on the carpet, lots of water comes up. It's been raining a lot here lately. The passenger's footwell is completely dry. All around the driver's door is dry, around the door seal is dry, carpet near the pedals is very dry. I can't really figure where all this water is coming from - looking underneath the car didn't help either.

Called the dealer, got it booked to go in on Wednesday. I asked if this is covered under the warranty, the service advisor wasn't sure - he said it probably isn't. Can anyone tell me if footwell leaks like this are covered? If not, then I really think Ford's warranty is the most useless thing ever printed on paper. :(

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:12 PM

ha ha ha, what a loada bull. :rolleyes:

They will try n pull one, but you should by no means ever get water leaks in the car till they are lot older or they have a fault in the build.

Sounds like a drainage plug has either come loose/unsealed either in the footwell or bulkhead...have you gota sunroof?...they can leak on the floor often due to drainage pipes running down the A pillar...but not sure on the new KA.

Either way, they better sort it for free, blooming heck, dont let em charge ya!

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:40 PM

On my 2008 Ford Ka with just 6,000 miles from new, I noticed on Sunday while doing the weekly checks, that there is water underneath the carpet in the driver's footwell. If I press down on the carpet, lots of water comes up. It's been raining a lot here lately. The passenger's footwell is completely dry. All around the driver's door is dry, around the door seal is dry, carpet near the pedals is very dry. I can't really figure where all this water is coming from - looking underneath the car didn't help either.

Called the dealer, got it booked to go in on Wednesday. I asked if this is covered under the warranty, the service advisor wasn't sure - he said it probably isn't. Can anyone tell me if footwell leaks like this are covered? If not, then I really think Ford's warranty is the most useless thing ever printed on paper. :(

Hello.
I had the same problem last week , just bought daughter a 2001 ford ka, and now its all dry.here is what i did....


1, But a pair of heavy duty black rubber gloves.
2. Cut out a oblong about 6" to 8" long from the glove.
3. open the bonet, and remove the coolant expansion tank., with 8mm socket.( you can leave the hoses on )
4.were the water runs from the window onto the bulkhead there is a black flap which can be pulled out,( pull this out for now, ) you can feel a steel lip just ub=nder were this flap is, all you need to do is put a good bead of silacone sealant on the long edge of the rubber that you have cut from the glove(better if its black) , and now seal it to the underside of the lip.just above the drivers peddles on the engine side of the bulkhead.

This helps the rain run from the window and off the bulkhead, and on down the bulkhead were water can get inside the car.



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Posted 23 November 2009 - 04:33 PM

Just a quick update. After searching on the net and calling another Ford dealer, I can definitely confirm that water leaks are NOT covered under the 2nd/3rd year of the warranty. I'm really !Removed! off and I definitely don't want the main dealer to fix it - I know they will want 200+ (having read similar stories on the Internet).

In response to hey44 - I might try that. I am also thinking of checking the pollen filter housing, as it might be leaking from there. I'm sure its not anything major - the car is still very new and has been looked after. Also, the amount of water under the carpet doesn't seem to be getting any worse. :huh:

In response to Piggy, no, no sunroof. And I'm glad too - sunroofs are notorious for leaking, and usually cause squeaking/vibrating noises which I seriously hate.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:12 PM

Thats rather disappointing from Ford, shame on them.

Well done Hey44, I was thinking along those lines, but not knowing the car and its faults did not know where to turn with it...should be that no doubt, its often all about where the water runs off, or SHOULD run off and ends up pooling somewhere then leaking in!

If you are really desperate, dry the carpet out, and the scuttle tray etc, then gently poor water over the area (windscreen etc) and have someone lying upside down in the footwell, with a torch, and try and see where its leaking in, also checking for pooling.

With all due respect, aint much in that area with a Ka, cannot be complicated!

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:23 PM

Thinking about this more thoroughly, I am now thinking that the guys at the main Ford dealer didn't seal up the dash properly when putting it back in. The entire dashboard was removed at my request several months ago to solve various dashboard rattles/vibrations which were annoying the hell out of me. A bit of Googling indicates that this problem pretty much requires the dash to be taken out - I might be wrong of course, but this is what it seems like.

The weird thing is that I can't see any evidence that the water is coming through the dashboard - its all dry around the area thats wet. All the electrics on the car are working fine, another indication that its not where the water is coming through. :unsure:

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 05:40 PM

dash shouldnt really affect the fault you have...the leak will be likely behind the dash, as in coming up behind the pedals.

The dash coming out shouldn't have affected it.

Have you cleared the scuttle of debris and leaves? That sometimes will block drainage and cause a leak!

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:29 PM

dash shouldnt really affect the fault you have...the leak will be likely behind the dash, as in coming up behind the pedals.

The dash coming out shouldn't have affected it.

Have you cleared the scuttle of debris and leaves? That sometimes will block drainage and cause a leak!

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I see, makes sense really. I clean the engine bay with care regularly - it still looks brand new, so definitely no leaves/debris.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 09:25 AM

scuttle panel, its where the wiper motor sits, between windscreen and engine bay, u may just have a drainage hole blocked! :)

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 06:14 PM

Another update. Fixing the problem properly requires removing the front seats and entire carpet to dry it all out properly. Therefore, I am pursuing this with Ford. I have a case with Ford customer relations, and they are considering doing it as a gesture of goodwill. I have it booked in with a Ford service/MOT garage for Tuesday. I'll also be enquiring about the missing VIN plate in the engine bay.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 07:21 PM

Good man, dont let them get away with it lightly.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 11:19 AM

Update: OK, so I brought my car into the garage this morning. They had a quick look and called me about 30 mins after I'd got home. I have authorised them to remove the dashboard, front seats, front carpet and scuttle panel to investigate the problem and dry out the carpet properly. I stressed the importance of them putting the dashboard back properly because it was removed before to fix rattles.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 12:50 PM

Well done, dont take crap!

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 06:18 PM

Another update. They've found a split in the bulkhead. They also think there's more than one leak because they found more carpet that was sodden.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 10:02 PM

wow!

Ouch :(

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