VagaBong Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Got up this morning and car was frozen. Threw some hot water on the windscreen as I was in a rush, and bang, the windscreen ran a crack along the bottom of the screen!. Can't believe it. My dad used to always do this when I was a kid. Have I done something wrong, or is the glass not able for it anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezwez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 how hot was the water I do mine but only Luke warm side windows only as I have heated front and rear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Should never throw hot water on a windscreen. The sudden temperature change causes a rapid expansion in the glass, usually unevenly and so it cracks. Don't you have the quick clear windscreen on your car? Even "cold" tap water can be significantly higher in temperature than the glass depending on the outside temperature, plus using it on the side windows it usually finds it way in to gaps and seals and the next day the door won't open. I just whack my quick clear on and scrape the side windows, before I've finished that the front and back are done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezwez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, alexp999 said: Should never throw hot water on a windscreen. The sudden temperature change cause a rapid expansion in the glass, usually unevenly and so it cracks. Don't you have the quick clear windscreen on your car? Even "cold" tap water can be significantly higher in temperature than the glass depending on the outside temperature, plus using it on the side windows it usually finds it way in to gaps and seals and the next day the door won't open. I just whack my quick clear on and scrape the side windows, before I've finished that the front and back are done. Think I will be doing that from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This is basically what you are doing, but in the opposite direction: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezwez Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, alexp999 said: This is basically what you are doing, but in the opposite direction: S--- wont be doing that again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurray01 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I have only done this a few times with almost cold water on the previous Focus which lacked Quick Clear and that was in desparate situations. I'd never do it on a car that I care about or where an alternative (such as Quick Clear or simply starting the engine and letting it defrost naturally) is available. It is asking for trouble and will eventually result in the windscreen cracking as it has in this case. It is especially dangerous if you already have a chipped windscreen, as that will crack a lot easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurray01 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, alexp999 said: Should never throw hot water on a windscreen. The sudden temperature change causes a rapid expansion in the glass, usually unevenly and so it cracks. Don't you have the quick clear windscreen on your car? Even "cold" tap water can be significantly higher in temperature than the glass depending on the outside temperature, plus using it on the side windows it usually finds it way in to gaps and seals and the next day the door won't open. I just whack my quick clear on and scrape the side windows, before I've finished that the front and back are done. Same here, and on vehicles without Quick Clear I start the engine and turn the fan on full blast on the hottest setting directing the air to the windscreen. As the engine gradually warms up the air becomes hotter at a steady rate so as to defrost the glasss without any risk of cracking. Quick Clear is the best though, as it works in 2-3 minutes as opposed to the traditional method of the fan which can take 10-15. Still, waiting 15 minutes for it to defrost is better than spending (at least) £75 insurance excess on a new windscreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incontro Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, jmurray01 said: Same here, and on vehicles without Quick Clear I start the engine and turn the fan on full blast on the hottest setting directing the air to the windscreen. As the engine gradually warms up the air becomes hotter at a steady rate so as to defrost the glasss without any risk of cracking. Quick Clear is the best though, as it works in 2-3 minutes as opposed to the traditional method of the fan which can take 10-15. Still, waiting 15 minutes for it to defrost is better than spending (at least) £75 insurance excess on a new windscreen. Waiting 15 minutes is also better than exiting outside and manually scraping the ice off in the freezing cold :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurray01 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Incontro said: Waiting 15 minutes is also better than exiting outside and manually scraping the ice off in the freezing cold :) Indeed it is, plus it means you are getting into a warm cabin as opposed to feeling like you are driving a freezer for the first few miles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff55 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 option b. coat glass with synthetic sealant which stops frost bonding to windows and just slides off. i'll leave you guys to your ice scrapers and warm water jugs........ #smug grin. ;-) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pullock Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 15 hours ago, biff55 said: option b. coat glass with synthetic sealant which stops frost bonding to windows and just slides off. i'll leave you guys to your ice scrapers and warm water jugs........ #smug grin. ;-) I've never even heard of that, how long does it last? Closest we use is spray on pre-icer the night before, but that becomes a chore with consecutive freezing nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff55 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Pullock said: I've never even heard of that, how long does it last? Closest we use is spray on pre-icer the night before, but that becomes a chore with consecutive freezing nights. 4-6 weeks buy it , apply it , never buy a can of de-icer ever again. £12 a bottle , which should last about 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pullock Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, biff55 said: 4-6 weeks buy it , apply it , never buy a can of de-icer ever again. £12 a bottle , which should last about 2 years. Thanks, sounds pretty good, certainly worth trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I'm sorry but genuinely thought this was a joke post. That repellant sounds interesting. Does it make the screen greasy at all, does rain head off it like it would with rainX? Where in the world are you, there seems to be members in every corner and I never know who is in the UK or elsewhere, not that it matters of course.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 i use kleen freaks glass cleaner and water repellant on my glass and has same effect on frosty mornings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VagaBong Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thanks for all the feedback lads. I feel like a right idiot now. There should be a fools guide for first time car owners so we don't stumble into all the stupid mistakes. Found a few windscreen tips online: https://www.greasemonkeydirect.com/blogs/news/5-ways-to-defrost-your-windscreen-in-the-morning Biff55's idea of using a synthetic sealant sounds great. Is it effective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pullock Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, VagaBong said: Thanks for all the feedback lads. I feel like a right idiot now. There should be a fools guide for first time car owners so we don't stumble into all the stupid mistakes. Found a few windscreen tips online: https://www.greasemonkeydirect.com/blogs/news/5-ways-to-defrost-your-windscreen-in-the-morning Biff55's idea of using a synthetic sealant sounds great. Is it effective? I bought some and it has helped with water so far, need to wait for it to freeze to find out with ice, but all good so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMWX Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Never done the kettle thing on any car I've owned. Sealant looks interesting, but now that I've got it, just use the quick clear function it works a treat. Just need it to be a little colder so I can actually use it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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