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#1 InstructorPiggy

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 01:52 PM

Me old man gota 1995 TD Mondeo...great car I think to be honest, especailly as he only paid 100quid for it with MOT and Tax...i am just drying it out after the pollen filter housing seal gave in....see other post....

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so if all else fails, we are half way there to autograssin!!....

but I am trying to work out why its so tough to get started in mornings....I have put brand new glow plugs in...goodens too...no real change...

It starts (tries) as though dead battery, so I charged it, no difference...so I hooked it up to another car and jumped it, no realy change...thought maybe air in pipes, so primed it before starting, still no difference.

It will go but it takes at least 10revolutions....

add to the mystery that the rev counter goes up as its trying to start??? goes to about 30mph!!! :lol:

also spotted this...been disconnected while ago it would appear...but I don't know why or what it does....

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It takes fuel after filter, sensors it for somthing, then it goes to pump.

Any one shed some light on the matter??!?!

Piggy :)

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#2 Pogo

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 03:11 PM

Have you checked the glow plugs are definately working? Could be a faulty relay?

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 05:09 PM

with all due respect, I aint thick...hence the embarrassment of asking...

yes it gives the correct voltage at the correct time, including continuous after engine has started.

Just to add...won't start at all now but when trying to start the speedo now goes to 70mph!!!???

Hey Roger...you reading this....help a fellow tech out!! :lol:

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 11:28 PM

any chance of larger image of missing connection got a mate who's not a member wsants a gander to see if he can see it in haynes. long shot but willing to look. u never know

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 11:01 AM

Bit late I know.. But the thing in the second picture that your pointing at is a fuel heater, to stop the fuel waxing at cold tempratures.

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 12:29 PM

Bit late I know.. But the thing in the second picture that your pointing at is a fuel heater, to stop the fuel waxing at cold tempratures.



ahhhh...no not late yet....due to weather, she still got the gutted interior...fixed the leak though, and with heaters, now is dry inside :)

still gota figure out starter situation....I have a feeling towards battery....not good under load...charge rate is fine...but battery looks older than me grandad!

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 06:51 PM

I wouldn't thought the fuel heater being bypassed would make any difference with the starting.

An explanation into the gauges rising could be due to the voltage drop when trying to start. Have seen this before on a Escort with a duff battery.

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 11:38 PM

Disconnect you battery and try jumping it again with the other motor. If you've got a duff battery you should notice the difference

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 12:14 PM

Disconnect you battery and try jumping it again with the other motor. If you've got a duff battery you should notice the difference



yea...ta.... :lol:

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 06:19 PM

i believe the old 8v diesel engines have a "cold start relay" these are prone to packing up they normally advance the fuel pump by a few degrees to aid starting worth a check m8? phil

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 10:34 PM

i believe the old 8v diesel engines have a "cold start relay" these are prone to packing up they normally advance the fuel pump by a few degrees to aid starting worth a check m8? phil



wiked....yea, the old citroens had this on early models...may have a look, thanks for the joggin of the memory cells :)

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:15 PM

Diaphragm`s prob gone in the Plunger on Primer and Fuel is running back to the Tank

Common problem on all Mk 1 / 2 Diesel Mondeos

New Primer cures problem.

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