otiab Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 hi all ive not long brought a 2003 1.3 duratec i look at the oil and was not good so i changed the oil,filter's and plugs. how ever the car runs like a bag of poo when i start the car it will idle for a bit then the revs will slowley climb to about 3000rpm ive looked at all my pipes and cant see anything wrong but i looked at my new plugs and they was sooty. hope some one can help me as i need my car soon for when i start my new job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Ecc Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Check out this, might help http://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/diagnosis.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 Check out this, might helphttp://www.spark-plugs.co.uk/pages/technical/diagnosis.htm thanks the old pugs was ok but when i serviced the ka this is when the new plugs went sooty as the car did not run right. dose ths idel controle valve control the choke? be for i serviced the ka it was running good and idling ok :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintalkin Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 if the car was running ok before the service something must have been disturbed while the work was done, sooted plugs suggest an overfueling problem so look around the air filter assembly for any blockages or problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 if the car was running ok before the service something must have been disturbed while the work was done, sooted plugs suggest an overfueling problem so look around the air filter assembly for any blockages or problems. thanks ive checked all the breather pipes and there ok. could it be the idle controle valve??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstructorPiggy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 maybe...odd tho that its with the service. Sure the plugs are the correct plugs?? You havent overfilled the oil?? Not a bad idea to start to rule them out, then have a check of the idle valve, give it a clean. Check all VACUUM pipes, little ones..one makes big difference. When was last time clearance gaps on valves were checked?? need to be done regular on the 1.3s...but wouldnt make it over rev...may help the running overall tho. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintalkin Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 it could be the iscv and cleaning it out will do no harm but i do not understand why it was not doing this before the service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstructorPiggy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 it could be the iscv and cleaning it out will do no harm but i do not understand why it was not doing this before the service. me neither!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 me neither!! me too i just dont know lol all the plugs are ok oil is ok all pipes and other things look ok too :( it dont miss fire and it starts fine, its just the rev's start climing might have to take it to the garage.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstructorPiggy Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 have a look at that idle valve, clean out, re connect, then turn ignition only on and off for 10second intervals three or four times after refit to recalibrate, then try it. also, when its revving, have someone in the car ready to use throttle and disconnect the idle valve, if the revving drops the other person may want to hold engine with throttle till you reconnect, but it will give an idea if it is the valve or not :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 also, when its revving, have someone in the car ready to use throttle and disconnect the idle valve, if the revving drops the other person may want to hold engine with throttle till you reconnect, but it will give an idea if it is the valve or not :) i will do it in the morning i did not think about doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 ICV was changed and it did help but the rev's now at 1500 rpm and the eng light is on, so its in the garage now :( thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 got the car back from the garage and its still not fixed the icv is new but now the car is hard to start and the idle is all over the place :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otiab Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 got it sorted the prob was the water temp sensor thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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