mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, k_j_jacobs said: it does dim albeit not that well by pressing the dim button... but this defeats the object of being hands free and fully automated. i will try to find which relay that forum picture refers too im not sure you would need a relay ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 well that diagram is telling me to connect to bat pos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, k_j_jacobs said: it does dim albeit not that well by pressing the dim button... but this defeats the object of being hands free and fully automated. i will try to find which relay that forum picture refers too looking at the relay it looks like it would just shut the light of relays switch on and off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 any ideas which one it is? the xtrons unit installed is fantastic.. plug and indeed play its just tweeking the finer details there were about 4 wires not in a loom that i just left... looks like i need to solder these in to illuminate the buttons on the unit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, k_j_jacobs said: any ideas which one it is? the xtrons unit installed is fantastic.. plug and indeed play its just tweeking the finer details there were about 4 wires not in a loom that i just left... looks like i need to solder these in to illuminate the buttons on the unit.. which one what is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 the relay... http://forum.xtrons.co.uk//forum_posts.asp?TID=139031&title=illumination-function-connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, k_j_jacobs said: the relay... http://forum.xtrons.co.uk//forum_posts.asp?TID=139031&title=illumination-function-connection it says 30amp 4 pin always open relay .but to me that would just shut the light of not dimm it . i looked at the instructions and it doesnt mention it dimming through the car only the unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 lights off even better... are my lights governed by canbus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, k_j_jacobs said: lights off even better... are my lights governed by canbus? id think most of the car is cambus .but im no expert then you wouldnt see anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 this is basicallly the Chinglish reply i got http://forum.xtrons.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=144176&PID=211253#211253 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, k_j_jacobs said: this is basicallly the Chinglish reply i got http://forum.xtrons.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=144176&PID=211253#211253 have you tried it with lights on as thats when the clocks and stereo will dimm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 yes... i do need to wire up those wires if according to that post but which relay are they refering too? that is the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 go into maplin and ask for a 30amp 4 pin always open relay . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 oh.. this is getting beyond technical now.. i thought i could just plug n play everything worked... even my steering wheel stalk now u think i got to start wiring up my own electronics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 14 hours ago, k_j_jacobs said: oh.. this is getting beyond technical now.. i thought i could just plug n play everything worked... even my steering wheel stalk now u think i got to start wiring up my own electronics? i dont think anything mate. with that unit i dont think it will dimm with the car control .it say to use button 6 and slide to dimm i dont think a relay will make it dimm as relays are on or off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 oh... bugg€r.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, mrmetallica said: i dont think anything mate. with that unit i dont think it will dimm with the car control .it say to use button 6 and slide to dimm i dont think a relay will make it dimm as relays are on or off There are auto dimming relays available which reduce power by 50% there mainly designed for DRL's but I've used them in a few applications Guide to Fitting Auto Dimmer Unit to Gauges or DRL's Click Here All said though; I can't imagine a relay being able to control the backlight of the screen when it's not been built in as part of the main motherboard, most units have an interior light sensor feed built in which automatically dims the screen when parking lights have been activated, personally id sell the P.O.S and go for a Pioneer unit here's some other guides in not sure if I've linked them before which may help in the future. There's an old saying: "why have a dog when you still need to bark yourself anyway" Guide to Fitting Aftermarket headunit focus Mk2 & Mk2.5 Click Here Guide To fitting 10" HD Flip Down Monitor Focus Mk2 & Mk2.5 Click Here Custom 10" Sub enclosure & Amp panel Focus Mk2 & Mk2.5Click Here Guide Installing Reverse Camera Focus Mk2.5 2008 - 2011Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 nah this is a great unit.... there must be something within my loom that tells the unit to dim as the previous unit did dim on lights on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, k_j_jacobs said: nah this is a great unit.... there must be something within my loom that tells the unit to dim as the previous unit did dim on lights on... Every rose has it's thorn #YesItDoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Lenny said: There are auto dimming relays available which reduce power by 50% there mainly designed for DRL's but I've used them in a few applications Guide to Fitting Auto Dimmer Unit to Gauges or DRL's Click Here All said though; I can't imagine a relay being able to control the backlight of the screen when it's not been built in as part of the main motherboard, most units have an interior light sensor feed built in which automatically dims the screen when parking lights have been activated, personally id sell the P.O.S and go for a Pioneer unit here's some other guides in not sure if I've linked them before which may help in the future. There's an old saying: "why have a dog when you still need to bark yourself anyway" Guide to Fitting Aftermarket headunit focus Mk2 & Mk2.5 Click Here Guide To fitting 10" HD Flip Down Monitor Focus Mk2 & Mk2.5 Click Here Custom 10" Sub enclosure & Amp panel Focus Mk2 & Mk2.5Click Here Guide Installing Reverse Camera Focus Mk2.5 2008 - 2011Click Here learn something every day lenny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 http://forum.xtrons.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=144176&MF=Y&PID=211437#211437 anyone any idea on which slot i got to stick this orange wire in? i cant see where im to make this connection shes on about http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/ford-focus-mk2-5-2008-stereo-removal/ doesnt seem to see the headlight hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just dug out the unit again and there are two wires ACC and ILL Red and Orange respectivly but two connectors 1 to the canbus stalk adapter box and the other too the harness. i was plugged into the adapter box. should be the harness. dimming is working now too bright for me to see any illumination of the buttons yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDaz Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Hello sorry to hijack this thread but could do with a bit of advice I have a eonon unit that is running of wince 6 it has cambus connection but the illumination lights do not come on with the cars lights any idea what wire in need to connect to the cars lighting system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_jacobs Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 what you got hanging out of the back of it? does it plug straight into the harness? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoDaz Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Yes it does plug straight in to the loom for the old unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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