Edge Sport V Vignale

[Clarked6]

The understanding I get from this, is you pay the rate for 5 years + the first year totalling 6, so say it's may 2020 and I've bought one registered and taxed in may 2017. I pay the final 2 payments of £450 then it drops down to £140 if I'm reading it correctly?

[NeilRS]

Yes, that's how I read it too. If mine had been registered 3 weeks later it would have cost me an additional £1550 over 5 years.

[NeilRS]

And of course depending on the spec of the car you buy- it may well not have crossed the £40k boundary new. 

[kelvin1950]

2 hours ago, Clarked6 said:

As I'll be buying second hand, the tax won't make much difference will it?

I've got a 58 BMW so just pay £30 a year, so haven't taken too much notice of the tax changes.

Oh yes! See here: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables it's quite complex.

[bluepeter]

Funny how Ford works, just spoke to a man who had a 3 year old kuga which had sync 3 installed in it, yet my 6 month old edge only has sync 2. baffles me.

[Clarked6]

Oh yes! See here: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables it's quite complex.

Is what I've put above right then, if it's over £40k then irrespective of owner you pay the increased tax rate. After the 6 years it drops down to £140.


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[Edge of Reason]

The list price of my Edge was a tad over £39K, so it would not have incurred anything but the first year levy, then normal road tax year on year, which I don't think is greatly different from the new fee since April.

edit - I got mine in January so the yearly rate is similar to the new yearly rate. 

Edited June 5, 2017 by Edge of Reason
Clarification.

[stevekdavis]

On 2017-6-5 at 3:21 PM, Clarked6 said:

As I'll be buying second hand, the tax won't make much difference will it?

I've got a 58 BMW so just pay £30 a year, so haven't taken too much notice of the tax changes.

If you buy a Ford Edge Sport with a list price of over £40k (excluding any discounts or offers) registered after April 1st 2017 you have a £310 premium per year until the car is 6 years old (5 yrs following initial payment). Makes it £440 per year. Someone else gets hit with the £500 first year tax bill (or the dealer if you buy new) as the 20" wheels push it from 149g/km to 153g/km which is a high tax emissions bracket.

[kelvin1950]

On 09/06/2017 at 3:27 PM, stevekdavis said:

If you buy a Ford Edge Sport with a list price of over £40k (excluding any discounts or offers) registered after April 1st 2017 you have a £310 premium per year until the car is 6 years old (5 yrs following initial payment). Makes it £440 per year. Someone else gets hit with the £500 first year tax bill (or the dealer if you buy new) as the 20" wheels push it from 149g/km to 153g/km which is a high tax emissions bracket.

Whereas my 2016 Ttitanium TDCI 210 powershift with 20" wheels is only £190 for the same emissions.

[NeilRS]

Is it? I thought they were all £150?

[cr15]

Looks like it's £140. 

[kelvin1950]

Well, it says here.............. https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001 My V5 says 152 g/km CO2, so £190 by my reckoning.

 

Petrol car (TC48) and diesel car (TC49)

Band	CO2emission (g/km)	Single 12 month payment	Single 12 month payment by Direct Debit	Total of 12 monthly instalments by Direct Debit	Single 6 month payment	Single 6 month payment by Direct Debit
A	Up to 100	£0	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
B	101-110	£20	£20	£21	N/A	N/A
C	111-120	£30	£30	£31.50	N/A	N/A
D	121-130	£115	£115	£120.75	£63.25	£60.38
E	131-140	£135	£135	£141.75	£74.25	£70.88
F	141-150	£150	£150	£157.50	£82.50	£78.75
G	151-165	£190	£190	£199.50	£104.50	£99.75

[Clarked6]

At lest this new tax system is easy to understand...


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[NeilRS]

I've just looked looked at Parkers car tax guide- the same models are £140 or £190 depending on registration date- I couldn't understand it at all. 

[Kylinski]

It amazes me how folk can purchase a £40k car then moan when the road tax increases slightly! 😧

[NeilRS]

Haven't seen much moaning- just people commenting on it. 

I comment on the price of petrol too. 

 

[sbird1975]

54 minutes ago, Kylinski said:

It amazes me how folk can purchase a £40k car then moan when the road tax increases slightly! 😧

The issue for me is the complete lack of thought that's gone into it. 

I could get an Audi A4, no premium car tax, add the traffic sign recognition option for £250 the.... bang, car suddenly becomes a premium car and now it cost an extra £310 per year to tax. Really a child could of thought this through better.

In the days of HP finance then 40K would be a really big deal. In the days of PCP it's not so much.

My budget on HP runs into about £22K, with the right car however, 40K is more in budget.

 

 

[kelvin1950]

5 hours ago, NeilRS said:

I've just looked looked at Parkers car tax guide- the same models are £140 or £190 depending on registration date- I couldn't understand it at all. 

DVLA run the VED, not Parkers! That's why I copied the DVLA table.

[tonyh53]

I think it's a hiked road fund licence for the first 5 years. Then the additional £300 is dropped. Well, that's what they say at the moment anyway! (as I understand it)