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#511763 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 11:05 PM

That's so expensive haha! Yeah but they don't have the 2600 so I'm wondering if I'm better buying a new 2700 or getting the older 2600! I just want something I'm not gonna hate and wish I got the other one!

Id go for the 2700 you wont be disapointed

I paid around 190 I think?
I'd happily have paid 250. Very happy with it. Sure, there's better out there if you can justify spending the money.. but if you're going for a high end head unit, it's then silly to use cheap speakers etc. Hence why I've gone for Focal/JL & Lenny has JL audio!
But as you've said, you're upgrading so no problems there

Ive fitted two sets of JL Audio C3 650 @ 275 per set,
4 channel amp @425
Mono amp @375
Whole system fitted cost me over 2G but I'm keeping the car for a good few years,
This isn't my first install ive researched many times to get to this point.

#511755 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 10:48 PM

How much is the 8700 or 8600? Would the 2700 have all the same stuff and better than the 2600 or completely different

Cost me 800 last november,
Not sure about differences but it has a 7" HD screen to start,
CarPlay, 3 sets of pre amplified RCA outputs, Digital sound processor, HDMi input, twin usb input, dual screen output,
Three video source inputs, etc.
Caraudiodirect has a good comparison layout if you select compare on items it shows differences quite well.

#511751 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 10:36 PM

So is that package bad then?? I'm so confused! Dunno what to do!!!!

In my opinion the kit you linked is a great deal for the price,
The amp is sebding 50w to the speakers max.
But the speakers can handle 70w
Sure there not going to achieve full potential but it also means you cant blow them,
Id go for it.
AVH-2700BT is the new 2600 pioneer change every year,
My 8600BT is now replaced with an 8700BT
Thats how it goes.

#511661 Upgrade Sony Audio System

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 06:29 PM

Sounds like a re - mortgage is needed !

 a set of Bose audio headphones would be cheaper and easier to transfer to the next vehicle ;)  

Wow! Thanks so much for all that. When you have finished the links I'm going to put everything in a document first so I have it all together then start working through and costing it. Amazed you have managed to list every washer and nut too!
I probably won't be able to go for the highest spec :( but I do want decent stuff... better start saving a bit more!!
The housing you made for the amp in the boot looks like a really neat job.
Thanks again Lenny for all your help, I will update when I start making progress.

Ive finished the list there now,
Ive listed bolts and stuff as I've gone through the build process in my head as I've just done my own between November and March

Lenny - it sounds like you have a university degree on this topic!
You must be quite the audiophile to be considering all this Sara!  :o

lol nah I've never gone to collage i was too busy chasing fast cars and fast well yeah :lol:
although my dad now retired but was a teacher,
Im only speaking from experience i know a few things about a few modifications
Heres my first build back in 2004



And now the focus:





#511607 Upgrade Sony Audio System

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 02:46 PM

Brilliant! thanks Lenny

No prob,
I've gotta edit to insert links below but this is how it will go if purchasing all items yourself no pressure to purchase anything this is just to give an idea of the install,
You could fit C2 speakers in rear would reduce cost a bit or fit a pioneer amp,
Ive gone top spec on the list below.

The amplifier requires power directly from the battery,
So the first item is 7 metres power cable
If purchasing set quantity to 7 in order to recieve a seven metre length.
Link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251113035519

The amp then gets earthed to the body so 2 metres of earth feed is required
Purcase Qty: 2
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...sd=251113035519
Followed by one pack of ring terminals
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cb898cd3c

Next item is some speaker cable which will feed audio from the amp in the boot back to the rear of the head unit where it can be spliced in to the existing cables feeding to the door speakers,
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cbeef9a71

Next item is a 5 metre RCA cable, this cable brings audio from the headunit to the amplifier,
I recommend this compact six channel in one cable.
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a92b362bc
If fitting a 5 channel amplifier then you have the extra two RCA's in the above cable.

Next item is an in line fuse adaptor,
you need a 40amp and these trip switch type are much better simple to reset if it ever trips.
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3384a57fbb

Next you need "aftermarket speaker adaptors"
These plastic rings fit to the door replacing the shape of the stock speakers while providing a 6.5" space to fit the new speaker.
Front kit:
Having Difficulty finding these Mk2 may be the same parts.
Rear kit:

The next item is optional but i highly recommend them,
Two sets of DEi Boom speaker baffles protect the speaker from moisture inside the door aswell as keep the bass inside the car,
2 sets required,
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item463589248d

Next item is two high level RCA adaptors,
These units fit behind the dash,
They take the front and rear speaker outputs then convert them to RCA connections.
2 required,
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cd566117e
If fitting a 5 channel amp,
You will need a third one of these set to 60hertz

All of the above items bridge the way to aftermarket life,
Now were on to the good stuff :)

Two sets of JL Audio C3 650 speakers

Front: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2a2a409fbb

Rear: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2a2a409fbb

Final item,
Choice of amplifier either

4 channel
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2a3266b0f1

5 channel
Link: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item35da8f9518

That's the overall shopping list of required items,
Other items required and available locally would be:

9mm MDF for building cavity panel,
Can of spray glue,
Black carpet to cover panel,
Wood glue,
14 M6x20 self tapping wood screws to build cavity panel,
14 M6x20 bolts to fit speaker brackets,
14 M6 x 15mm washers to grip bolts
14 nylon lock nuts for bolts,
Four M5 x 40 bolts to grip amp to panel,
Four M5 x 30 penny washers,
Four M5 lock nuts,
Estimated 50 quid for all that between Halfords and B&Q

Fitting shouldn't take more than one day with the amp panel pre built.

If fitting 5 channel amp then you can fit a 300 watt sub and enclosure at later date if desired.

Just needs some speaker cable, sub and box,

When the amp is installed it will need to have the gains set correctly to match the speakers,
I can loan the kit required to do this using a sound cd, volt metre and flat head screwdriver see guide:

Car audio specialist may charge more for this i don't know, if they do,
I can loan for cost of shipping and here's how to do it:
See page: 82 of my build regarding tuning the amplifier
Link: http://www.fordowner...-2015/?p=477925


#511589 Upgrade Sony Audio System

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 01:28 PM

Hi Lenny thanks for the post and taking time to give me a detailed reply.  I have no idea about car electrics (I just love great quality sound!) so I would struggle to install myself, wish I could but it would be a disaster!  :D But now I am armed with a shopping list and I can get some prices.
Taken onboard what you say about not replacing the head unit, pleased its a good one and I only need amp and speakers. I have loads of room in the boot so I can fit sub in there if I want.
What are RCA outputs?
I will speak to SoundEvo first, Watford is not that far from me. If they can't do it I could order the components from them and find someone local to fit.
Thanks very much for the help :)

No problem,
Tell em lenny in ireland recommend you to them on fordownersclub.com
I give em over a grand last january so he should remember me, :lol:
I got the best deal in uk though, they are cheapest.

See my guide here for an example of how a cavity panel can be built to house an amp in the boot compartment
Link: http://www.fordowner...ocus-2005-2011/

Ill create a shopping list including the RCA adaptors so you have an option of purchasing all items yourself
Then paying for labour rather than everything.

The amplifiers accept rca connection as an input,
Your stock headunit outputs are coaxil cable,
The hi level rca adaptor takes coaxil converts it to RCA form for connection to the amp.
The amp then boosts up the sound and send it on to the speakers.

#511575 Upgrade Sony Audio System

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 12:53 PM

Thanks Mark, do you have the surname for Lenny? Perhaps I can search for him on here and ask him the question?

Hi Sara,
Sorry ive not saw this thread sooner,
I pick up a few threads every couple of days and tend to stick with them until complete then search for more.

Considering you have a high level headunit it would be a sin to tear it out for a pioneer double din,
Instead you can fit a 4 or 5 channel amp on an mdf carpeted cavity panel in the boot compartment,
A nice compact JL Audio class D efficent amp.
Perhaps two sets of JL Audio C3 650 speakers,
Five channel if you want to fit a sub aswell but the class D range in a 4 channel amp is around tge size of an A4 page and 1 inch thick feeds 200watts to each door.

Your existing headunit wont have RCA outputs
But you can fit two hi level RCA output adaptors which convert your lines to rca which then feed the amp,
Amp will then feed the speakers,
This way your stock equiliser and fader still work as they should.

Id encourage installing this setup yourself rather than a fitter,
Save yourself 200 pounds
A very good supplier of jl audio in the uk is soundevo.co.uk they also install if desired.

#511561 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 12:14 PM

Or set the gain structure properly and not blow them either :P

:lol: good one,

For those whom may not know,
When an amp is purchased it doesnt come tuned,
It needs tuning which means setting the gains,
Kieran likes to amplify everything as stated setting the gains.

See page: 82 of my build regarding tuning the amplifier
Link: http://www.fordowner...-2015/?p=477925


#511550 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 11:44 AM

Straight away you've got a problem.
The amp is fine powering the subwoofer.
But it provides 50w RMS X2 (so 50w a side in the front).
The speakers they're including in the 'deal' require 70w RMS a side :). They should've spotted this.. probably hoping people wouldn't notice.
The 6x9 will still work, but they'll be under powered

Another way to look at this is;
You can put the stereo at full volume without ever blowing the speakers :)

#511549 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 11:42 AM

How did you fit a PlayStation hahaha! And thanks guys appreciate the help so much! I have to go now but will reply to yous both when I get home! Thanks again! Means alot !!

The Playstation2 slim&light model runs on 8.5 volts
Plugs in to a 12v cigarete socket in the car.
PS2 fits in glovebox,
Fitted joypad extension cables to under front seats,
Plug in joypad when required.

#511538 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 11:20 AM

Thanks so much lenny! I'll give it a look after I finish work tonight! I reckon I'll go for the double din pioneer now and my friend linked me where he got his sub and amp etc! I'll reply when I finish work letting you know how I'm getting on but thanks so much!

No prob,
Your friend can probably advise you in the process of the build,
But if you would like a second opinion on anything were here to help and discuss any time.
I've fitted PlayStation 2, reverse camera dual screen monitor, 10" flip down monitor, 4G WiFi, dual amps,
DVB TV tuner with live pause & record, discreet dual camera dvr dash cam system, footwell lighting, ambient cup holder shadow lighting, ford logo puddle lighting, additional boot lighting, dual 6000k reverse lighting.
Basiclly anything that can be done we've got it coverd and can advise were not here to show off,
We here to assist you in achieving results and get the most value for money

#511529 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 10:55 AM

Hey anyone know any good radios for fiesta mk6? Want it to look good! Also I've been looking at a pioneer double din and the ripspeed dvd740! Also on Halfords website it says there is a ripspeed dvd740 and a ripspeed dvd740 refurbished! Anyone know what the difference is as I can't see any difference! Also the price is a remarkable difference! Just need a good looking radio that fits easy! And does the job! Thanks

You will need an aftermarket conversion kit for the mk6 fiesta,
The kit will contain everything required to easily install your aftermarket headunit.

I recommend fitting a double din rather than a singe din flip up unit,
Double din works best with a reverse camera DVD playback, can even install a PlayStation2 but its your vehicle do what you want yourself.

Pioneer are the best headunit range on the market good solid reliability,

My guess with the halfords refurbished headunit is that it was a display model.

If buying a headunit log on to dynamicsounds.co.uk

Both suppliers are guaranteed quality and value for money.

You may like to view my full list of guides which can be viewed on my profile page:
If your using the forum App follow this link: http://www.fordowner...-lennys-guides/
All of the above guides have been performed on a Mk2.5 Focus but the principles are the same on any 12v vehicle.

Here's my build thread aswell,
I've documented a lot of info regarding fitting amplifiers, capacitors, USB aux ports and choosing the correct cable from around page 50 onwards link: http://www.fordowner...read-2010-2013/

#511521 Mk6 Radio

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 10:33 AM

#511500 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Lenny on 12 August 2015 - 09:27 AM

Hey Lenny! Great stuff all around with the pics and guides!
I noticed that you recently upgraded your brake discs and pads. I bought my car few months ago and based on the braking which was very "uneven" my mechanic friend said that the discs were warped. I changed the discs and pads and everything was fine for a while. Now I noticed that this "uneven" braking is coming back again. Also the wheel is shaking when braking every now and then. This doesn't happen always though. Based on these I'm thinking that could the discs be warped again? What I've read this has been an issue with Fords for quite some time. Is this correct? Have you experienced these kind of problems at any time?
I was wondering that would it help to use these kind of grooved and drilled brake discs. Maybe those would stay cooler and wouldn't warp so easily?

Hi Kyösti
Thanks for comments,
If one disc is worn more than the opposite side that's normal in todays cars equipped with ESP (Traction Control)
Because ESP will use the brakes on any wheel independently to slow down any wheel that's going faster than Schumacher :lol:
i mean the other wheels in order to keep you on the road,
ESP is great in the dry and wet but useless in the snow because ESP stops all wheel spin.
Can be switched off in centre screen menu but automatically switches on each time engine is started.

However a warped disc is caused by excessive heat,
I've not heard much about warped discs on the focus mate,
One or two people have post thread on the forum but not a significant amount that would deem it a common problem.

Ford are notorious for buckled alloys though,
If you have a buckled wheel this will cause effects such as an uneven disc, pulling to one side of the road.

I reckon you should have the wheels checked aswell as laser tracking alignment.
Any tyre specialist can perform these tasks for you.

Another problem could be wheel hub bearing or the CV joint are rubbing when driving thus generating increased heat on the hub and warping the disc.

The stock braking system in the focus has always been underpowered in my opinion they don't slow as quick as other cars.

Upgrading to bigger callipers is an option but this contributes to the vehicles "unsprung mass" which will reduce the driving performance 0-60 speed etc.

Cross drilled & grooved discs do run cooler than standard discs,
They are a great upgrade and look good.
However I'm not sure how much cooler they run and if it would solve the root cause of the problem your currently experiencing.
Discs are pretty thick pieces of metal it would take a lot of consistent heat build up to warp it.

Ultimately in a pathway to solving the problem,
Id first have wheels checked for buckles,
Second have the CV joint and Hub bearings inspected for grinding.
After those,
Have the laser tracking alignment checked and speak to others on here may have other ideas.

The warped disc you have is now a problem but i don't think it is the main issue.

#511441 Modifications

Posted by Lenny on 11 August 2015 - 09:25 PM

OK well keep them for me bud I get paid on the tue so deffo take them then bud

just send me a pm with payment details, an what the cost is for postage, I'll reply with my details or they should show up on PayPal come to think about it, that's a good price, thought you would have wanted near asking price, that's why I wasn't sure if would have that much spare, but I can deffo do that, cheers

26 including shipping via tracked mail,
Ill pm you paypal address can pay whenever suits yourself,
They did cost 80 + shipping but im selling to a small market of potential buyers as result selling cheap