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#418618 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 12 October 2014 - 04:18 PM

Hiya Lenny.


I had to read this out a few times before getting my head round it. I am slow. Apologies lol.


I have had a couple of thoughts as well for your install:


1. Any particular reason that you want the amp to be removable? You mentioned that you wanted it for the bootspace when you flatten the seats. But, I reckon that your 2 amps might be able to be mounted upside down, like in Mr_Spock's build neatly underside where you were thinking for the mono amp. that way, all cables are neatly routed to it and you can still access it for tweaking the parameters if needed. I am asking this as you mentioned the sub enclosure will be permanently in the car. The JL Audio website should have the dimensions of both amplifiers if you want to measure that space in the car to see if it will fit. 


2.One other option that we have not considered is that, with the 4 channel amplifier, it doesn't need to be close to the subwoofer. You could have it mounted inside the cabin if you wanted. e.g Under the front seats or even where you used to have your spare tyre. You could have a very tidy install of the 2 amps in the tyre well with all the cables out of sight. It would have the advantage of keeping all your boot space nearly as the enclosure take a very small amount of it 

The reason I am thinking of alternatives is that, the amplifier will get hot with prolonged use and you need good airflow to it to keep it functioning well. With your idea of the mounting position, if I gather correctly, will be enclosed or not? Just my thoughts about it as I reckon it might be a pain to get it in and out when you need the bootspace with the kids etc.


Your plan will definitely not cost much and will be a fun project to do at the same time. You have thought it through with the weight etc as well. Thankfully the sub enclosure isn't that heavy. It was lighter than my old 10" sub with its box! I think it's well worth the money. 


With regards to the custom cut pieces, I reckon they would look very nice when illuminated. Would definitely be the icing on top of the cake then. If you are going down that route, also consider making it in fiberglass and painting it as that would be even better for the amp rack :)

#418418 2014 Upgrades

Posted by Hassen on 11 October 2014 - 08:59 PM

Rockford Fosgate Punch 1000X4D initial impressions:


So, had the amp installed for a few days and got a chance to tweak the sound to my liking. My first impression when plugging it in was "Wow! the Focal speakers have come truly alive!" It was not a lot louder but the clarity was clearly discernible. The tweeters were very distinct and the woofers up front were a lot more dynamic that before and the mid bass was well and truly part of the sound now. Before, it was there but not as prominent as now. I had to mess about with the gain to find the right balance for the front speakers and the sub. It was not that difficult and I managed to get them to stop clipping. I wish I had one of those SMD devices to do so accurately but for now my ears will have to do. 


I was not expecting a big difference after changing to the new amp but I was pleasantly surprised. I guess feeding adequate power to the speakers really do make a difference. 


Next, I plan on making a short 1080p video and hoping to capture the sound quality of the whole system.

#418414 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 11 October 2014 - 08:40 PM

Dunno why I didn't get any updates on this feed for a few days and had to catch up on my reading. 


The speaker wire will come in handy and the extra you could always sell it like you said. The rest of the parts that will become redundant you might as well sell it to recoup some money. Those adaptors that you linked in look very slick and should make the whole setup more user friendly. I like how you are keeping everything in the armrest console. I was lazy with doing mine and just have the wires running out from the right lower corner of the main fascia. It kinda looks untidy but it's functional. I reckon with your plan, the whole thing will just look neat.


Do you have an iPod btw that you plan on having music on? The Pioneer headunit will work brilliantly with it and you will be able to browse all your music stored on it while the iPod sits nicely in the armrest. I also have to say how good of a unit that Pioneer is in playing music. The amount of ports at  the back will make it very versatile. Good value for money I think.

#417613 2014 Upgrades

Posted by Hassen on 08 October 2014 - 09:55 PM

So received my Rockford Fosgate Punch 1000X4D Class D amplifier today. The weather stayed good for about 1.5hr and I took about 1hr to take out the Blaupunkt GTA470 and fitting in with all the wires the new amplifier.


Here are some pictures of the new setup. Not that different from the old but the new amp is smaller in size and I like how all the wires come from the back of the unit and all the controls are at the other end are for the gain/filters etc.





#417606 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 08 October 2014 - 09:37 PM

Good catch there Lenny. I never thought of that for my setup but I didn't plan to remove the amps. That will be an easy way for you to still have the music through the speakers if the amps are not connected. A little bit more work but worth the effort :) 

#417234 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 07 October 2014 - 07:46 PM

Good call there with the other kit Lenny. Worked out to be cheaper. 


Not sure about the grease in a can thing. Maybe someone else might be of help with that. 


Good idea with fitting the Silent coat in warmer temperatures. It's damn difficult to get it done in the cold and rain. I did mine in the summer and one day it started raining and the temperature dropped. It was such a pain to get it done. If you can get the car in a dry garage to do the work, that would be much better.


How does the Vibe fast plug work btw and where will you be using it?


In Ireland, when I was gathering my parts, I phone a bunch of places to do the fitting. Most of them turned me down as I had not bought the parts from them. I really wonder if there is a big enough market for Car Audio in Ireland such as in England. Maybe myself and Lenny could start a Car Audio shop like Soundman CA :)

#416994 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 06 October 2014 - 10:02 PM

Great story about the braided sleeve. At least you got something productive out of the pension meeting. Lol :P


For the contact protect, maybe look into local motorfactors. They might have it as with anything with liquids, it's a nightmare to get it shipped here. 


Like you said, collective wisdom is great to have. That's the beauty of the FOC online. Anyone has access to the Hive Mind as I call it, where all the collective wisdom is kept and if its not posted yet, someone will most probably have an answer :)


With regards to winter, you might have a bit of difficulty if the temperature drops when applying the Silent Coat. My suggestion would be to heat the metal you will be applying the Silent Coat to get optimum adhesion. Maybe with a hairdryer or heat gun if you have one. I can lend you my heat gun if you need it. 


And yea, my voice control unit is redundant now. Not that I ever used it when I had the stock stereo lol

#416695 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 05 October 2014 - 10:31 PM

Lenny, the sky is definitely getting darker and winter is coming soon. Light will be fading out earlier soon. Weather warning as well for the next few days :(


Mr_Spock thread Guide Complete Stereo install Focus Mk2/Mk2.5 is full of useful information and he did a terrific job with his sound system. I have asked him questions in the past and he has been very helpful. I am sure he will answer any questions you have. If you have any questions for myself, ask away and I will be happy to help out. 


With all the parts that you will not be using out of the car, I reckon with their sale, you will have some money to put towards the new build. I kept all my old parts as I plan to put them back into the car when I do decide to sell it. 


Keep us posted on the progress :)

#416689 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 05 October 2014 - 10:15 PM

There's a few reasons why I'm trying to get it all prepared for a one time run at it,
First reason and well i suppose the one that put the "one time fit" idea in my head is the degenerate disc disease in my lower back,
Stripping out the car is surly going to aggravate the condition that unfortunately is how it's going to be, so i only want to suffer once and horse on with it,
Second reason is that it will be pure therapy to route all cables seamlessly in to the car aswell as installing the Silent coat at the same time after spending months piecing it all together with no value for money until the day comes to install it. Would be like pimp my ride :lol:
Third reason is Vicki can't complain "ugh your spending loads of time on the car" i wont be touching it until i have enough items to go in then take that few days which i will have earned myself in the meantime lol

I'm going for the same as yours mate two amplifiers
1ch mono for the sub,
4ch stereo for the doors,
I've purchased two vibe 4AWG kits yesterday and one vibe FastPlug they didn't have two in stock so I've got one of the FastPlug connectors on order, only 9.98 each and saved 13 quid yesterday with forum discount card.

I had considered fitting a 0 AWG wiring kit routing it to the boot then fitting a connector to split it in to two 4AWG outputs but that would be a lot of draw through a single feed from the battery there is risk that the sub amp would lose potential.
End result mate the way you have your system wired is best: each amp wiring comes directly from the battery rather than bridged in the boot.
I'm a bit OCD when it comes to wires running around lol i know it will make no difference to the operation what way there situated and its by no means going to be a show car,
I will use the supplied cable ties to secure the cables from the battery to the boot compartment,
But i like the idea of around 12" of braided sleeve to go from under the rear seat to the plugs on the amp unifying the wires in to one black feed,
I reckon would go nicely with the carpet,
I've searched eBay last night and found a supplier of various sizes,
I've just gotta wait now until the looms are fitted and cable tied,
Then put the Vernier callipers on to the bulk loom and find out what size i require,
Only need 24" of the stuff max. Won't break the bank.



You got it all laid out and planned to a T there Lenny. I like how you thinking ahead and gonna do the whole job at one go. Definitely minimises your time working on the car in the end. 


I also like the braiding you will be using. I reckon once I get my new amp, reroute my cables, I will be getting some myself. Unsure of what size I will need but reckon it will be a lot cleaner of an install and protect the cables as well. Good find there and I am saving that link :)

#416344 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 09:57 PM

I like your idea of routing all cables, tidying it up and sound deadening the car prior to fitting the equipment. I didn't do that and did it in steps, which made more work in the end. 


You might not need the fish net cable tidy sleeve as the Vibe kit also contains a lot of cable ties. I am not sure if you going to go for the 2 amplifier setup as I have and whether you will want 2 power wires running to the 2 amps. In that case you will need 2 wiring kits and you will have plenty of cable for both front and rear speakers. Also, more than enough of cable ties to make it all tidy. I was a slob and didn't bother with cable ties. It still works fine lol

#416314 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

Thought that you had not seen it inside the wiring kit as it's all bundled together. The one thing that I think you will need, that's not on your list is connectors for the speakers etc. This is what I am referring to: 




I got that one and all the little bits came in handy for wiring. Also, electrical tape (at least 2 rolls), a pair of wire strippers and crimper will be very helpful during the wiring process if you don't have it already in your toolbox. And a small roller for when you are installing the Silent coat down the line. You can borrow all of these from me anytime you want :)


As I remember more bits and pieces, I will write them down here. 

#416300 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 08:01 PM

Lenny, my bad. I thought it was the ELM cable :P

And yea, once you see a baby, they are just everywhere :)

The 20" rims was just for jokes. I always think of big american cars with DUBS for that. The Focus I think looks good with 17/18". Anything bigger would compromise ride quality too much for myself. 


With regards to the Vibe flatflex audio cable, I think you might not need it. From what I recall, there is speaker cable wire, flat that is included in the Vibe wiring kit. Running it from the front speaker to the rear of the car, as you saw in mine, there was still some wire left over from it. I didn't cut mine off and just secured it under the rear seats. Same for the Right and Left cables running from the front speakers. You might only need a short amount of wire to connect the subwoofer to the amplifier as they would be very close. In my setup, I just used some old speaker wire that I had from the previous install. 

The 2nd link that you posted for the wire being sold by the metre is what comes in the kit that you bought. 

#416277 Mightycarmods Build Thread: Gramps 11 Second Car

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 06:56 PM

Watched it the other night. I just had to go look if we could get E85 in Ireland. Also, the only stock car that I knew ran on Flexfuel was the Volvo S40. It was a lot of fun to watch and can't wait for the next one.

#416273 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 06:52 PM

Lenny, if you ever thought about going for bigger wheels. 20" that came off a Mondeo :P



#416263 "taking Oval To Blue Horizon" Lenny's Build Thread 2010-2015

Posted by Hassen on 04 October 2014 - 06:24 PM

Lenny, sounds like an epic day! Mine was nearly the same as yours. My son woke up at 4am, screaming the house down looking for his mummy, who was working at night. Took me a while to try to calm him down and then he slept in my bed. He then decided to wake up at 7am! Had to distract him for a while then I advised him to go downstairs, get the tablet and I was going to put a movie on it for him. That worked for a while before I had to go make breakfast etc. Then it was the same as yours, asking me questions every 3-5min! But he is good fun as I was telling him today about the drivers moving teams in Formula One and he was happy that Daniel Ricardo was staying in Red Bull. Go figure :)


As for buggys and car seats, I think the trendy word is Travel Systems as I was advised by the lovely sales lady on Mothercare :P


Liking the parts and the ideas you have for the planned sound upgrade. You are well on the right track and I am sure it will be fun journey getting there. 


Thanks a million for sending the module. I will have to download the software and mess about with it. Looking forward to it. Cheers :)