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Sutton Stourmead

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In Topic: 1.6 Tdci Econetic - Dissapointing Mpg's

29 January 2014 - 11:29 AM

They are/were Primacy HP's


I took the opportunity to replace both fronts with Dunlop Blue Sports because i was so fed up ... the Dunlops are a really good match for this car, and got a great deal with ASDA tyres online... my previous octavia I always had Conti Premium Contact 2 so could easily tell the michelins were behind other tyres on the market for grip

In Topic: 1.6 Tdci Econetic - Dissapointing Mpg's

28 January 2014 - 02:25 PM

You are more than welcome...

you dont really know a car after you've lived with it, and I feel like i know this car pretty well now.


+ve's - and these are show winners...

Stick it on the motorway, engage cruise, and it's miles and miles of effortless, economical, quiet driving in a pleasant and comfortable cabin, and the stereo is pretty decent too...


take it to the airport and you can fit MASSES of luggage (6 cases of various sizes, no problems - although i still think they could have done the wheel arches a little less intrusively)


fit 5 adults with consummate ease... i'm 6' 2" and the passenger behind me still has luxurious amounts of legroom.


LOVE the quick-clear windscreen


the ride, even on the sports pack, is pretty nice, wiith a true solid feeling - lovely on the motorway.


feels very safe, plus plastic bodywork just wobbles back into shape to keep potential repair costs down - just kick the rear bumper to see what i mean.




However, take it round town though and you get top know it's quirks straight away..


-ve's - these are not deal breakers on their own, but combine to make you think twice about this exact version

it's WIDE (watch that passenger mirror - i'm on my 3rd now!)

it's got a MASSIVE turning circle

it gets your shoes wet when you open the boot

it scrapes over all the speedbumps at +10mph

rear bench maybe could be slightly wider for the moddle seat - this comes into play when putting three kids with car seats in the back.... ie you cant unless you have a bubble-bum or other 1/2 size seat for the middle seat child.


and finally a couple of more jokey points,

the phone keypad - useless due to the volume knob in the middle, but the bluetooth and steering controls are pretty good.

the voice recognition - hours of fun listening to it say 'not possible'

i think the whole layout of the driver control system needs a revamp though... for instance eco 'mode' , well its not really a mode per se, its just some flower petals telling you if you're driving too fast, and its accessed through the 'settings' folder... would be nice if the screen just reverted to this after say 30 seconds.


All of the below points apply to when you want to partake in some spirited driving ...

the standard 'eco' michelins have little grip

6th gear 50-70 is achingly slow

turbo lag, which opens the door on a couple of other quirks...

you end up tweaking your style and keeping the engine in its high rev power band - and then it becomes a wheel spin monster as the tyres lose the battle to drag its bulk off the line. remember this is the UK and roads are usually damp too. it maybe worth enquiring for a different model with wider tyres..

did i mention how wide it is? watch those width restrictions / car park entrances


Would i buy one again?


ouch - pro and con considered,

on size for when its just me, yes

on size when i'm out with the family, would SERIOUSLY have to look into a full size 7 seater as a valid alternative (not talking about a 7 seats but no boot car)

on quality, probably, depends, other brands have similar or better build quality and finishing, and better kudos with the neighbours.

on drive quality, yes

on servicing costs, yes

on driving 'hassle factor' when in town , no - its just not manouvreable enough

on economy - no, not this model.. i'd hire any car for a weekend and see how it copes with me. further test drives and research needed


so for me, when it comes up for lease renewal/termination/purchase some time in 2015, i think I'll be giving this one back to ford and considering my options.



Final point - this car is no longer on sale, you have to get the 1.6tdci econetic Zetec Business edition now which comes with Satellite Nav and a slightly nicer interior, so thats a few more + points to the argument.


Happy driving

In Topic: 1.6 Tdci Econetic - Dissapointing Mpg's

28 January 2014 - 12:14 PM

Hi Team!


17000+ miles later and the 1.6 TDCi econetic is returning appx 50 mpg in mixed driving (Fast A road / rush hour M Way / in-town stop start)


Drove up to birmingham and back and for that trip it got closer to 60 on the avg readings.


So in fairness to it, i do have the a/c on at least 66% of the time, but then i did that when i had the old 1.9 octavia as well...

In all,  i'm not that impressed with this performance - i think the 1.6 doesnt have the oomph for such a fine handling and also heavy car so you always push the engine harder. and this eats the mpgs. 


overall, definately wish we had gone for one with the standard suspension and 2.0 engine - the Zetec econetic is stuck behind turbo lag at every junction, has no guts up hills, and worst of all came with sports as standard to lower ride height and improve mpgs. this means the tray and front grill spray deflectors (behind the nose, before the wheels) clip pretty much every speed hump i've ever driven over.  The sports suspension feels too soft to support such a low ride height and keep the car off the deck.


Great family car, masses of space, decent quality (if not quite VW levels) , but just the wrong engine and suspension package.


Final word?

Annoyed it gets my shoes wet when i open the boot after its been raining - no drainage channels!