Well, I checked the coolant temp using torque pro, from cold it took 7.1 miles to get to operating temp (90c) but only was at 44c when the guage in cluster read normal temp ( midway between 60 and 120 on display.)
Confirms what ive said on other topics about not relying on the car temp guage.
And yes it takes a long time to warm up!!
Well that confirms my car is normal as on warmer days it warms up fast.
Thanks for your help with your tests