using a Kingston 32GB Class 4 and a Kingston 64GB Class 10 no problems with either
My new Mobius B lense dash cam arrived today for the front windscreen. Now using "Wide" option in FOV settings, and being the Wide Angled lense I have the creamish A pillars in field of view, and as a result I get reflections of same on the windscreen video capture. I have my Dash cam just under the Rain Sensor Housing. It also shows an area of the dash inwards of the demister vent. This being grey does not negatively show up as a reflection.
Differance with the A lense Mobius using the same bracket, it does not pick up the A pillars, well it does but just a tiny tiny bit of the respective bases of A pillars hence no reflections. And it only shows a little of the dash but very little indeed.
I've tried the B lense Mobius on "narrow" setting in FOV and that is like using the A lense Mobius. Now tomorrow I may adjust the bracket to lift the cam angle, and try again on "Wide" setting, but lifting it to high may have the cam picking up more direct sun hence dazzle.
Just letting fellow Focus owners know purchasing the B lense Mobius may not be beneficial. There again setting the cam higher up the windscreen phyisically may mitigate that effect. Maybe somebody with a B lense setup akin to that, could give some feed back for those thinking of putting dash cams in.
Myself, I'm happy with my home made brackets and the cam positions, in that I will be leaving them in permanent situ. I only had have two attempts at making the rear bracket. And two front brackets, both of which I then refashioned, eventually settling on the refashioned first bracket
Just awaiting the 3m charging cable to hard wire it in [should come tommorow] then back and front hard wired and finished.
But the truth is the police are under resourced in the area of bringing to book the vast majority of the idiots on the road.
Yes you personally witness some violations of the traffic regulations and deal with them accordingly. You turn up and help deal with the carnage this idiots create on our roads.
But the simple fact is the odds of being caught and punished for dangerous driving be it intentional of just simply plain stupidity, is nigh on no existant in relation to the actual number of violations commited by these idiots.
Sure we are all guilty at some time in our driving lifetime of making a bad driving decisions. But usually the intellegent amoungst us learn from the experience. But serial offenders continue doing it until either they are caught or they kill somebody.
Having suffered a near death experiance at the hands of a lorry driver myself. Incidently a witness to the event made the comment " you must be the luckiest man alive in Bradford"
Having sat in hospital awaiting news of my Wifes and her aged Mother condition, after they were taken out head on by a young idiot in a Mini Cooper [driving on his Grans insurance] who could not stay on his side of the road. I thought I was going to loose them both. The mother-in-law was left with disabilitating injuries, and mental anguish the rest of her life.
Six weeks before she died, three years after the accident. We had occasion to take her and her husband to a funeral in Kent [driving down from Yorkshire] As we negotiated the slip road to join the AI, on her seeing the heavy goods vehicles dwarfing us as they barrelled down the road she let out a mutted scream of sheer terror. I had to reassure her that we would join the A1 at the same speed as the traffic using the road. When we got back the following day she stepped out of the car and flung her arms around me, thanking me for bring her home safe. Never in the 44 years that I had then known her had she expressed herself in such a manner.
The wife though suffering no physical scars, is addament she has not recovered fully her powers of recalling her memory due to the concusion she received amounst her other injuries. To this day has she has no recollection of the events just prior to the crash. She was discharged from hospital on 30th December and asked me what the cards bedecking the house were in aid off. She had no recollaction of Christmas, indeed what Christmas was. Was not aware she had children, indeed she had to be re taught her job.
What I'm trying to say is, I just wish these idiots I see day after day endangering the lives of others could suffer one single day of being in that position.
Clive regards your job, you have no need to worry, there will always be more idiots and or scum out there than you can handle mate.
but then you would get the morons amoungst us who would know doubt cut you up and have it programmed with a two finger salute.
Trouble is we are dealing with idiots or just plain stupid people in most cases, and the use of message boards would be [in their eyes] that you are questioning their driving prowess .
Now the reality is technology is avaliable today to to produce an onboard safety system that would measure the speed of the car it is installed in and the distance it is sitting off the rear of the car it is following. Obviously you would have to factor in how long a given situation is in progress. And a base speed where the safety system kicks in [becomes live] or disingages, to allow for situations where vehicles are queueing in slow moving traffic and such.
When the circumstances confirm the car is tailgating it would activate a warning message in the offending vehicle . And if the warning its ignored, the cars is put into safe mode untill the on board data confims a safe distance is being maintained.
Bit like training a dog really, reward them with a treat, in this case the driver getting control of their car back when they start driving responsibily. Safe breaking applications using the type of in car monitoring that I outline above, are in use to today in many cars. An example being the new Volvo V40, in regard to people detected in front of the vehicle, or safe auto braking when a low speed collision situation is recognised. [I believe they have got systems that can activate at speeds of upto 30mph in some applications]
Yes thats what i was thinking im a bit worried about ruining the rain sensor cover i was trying to see how much they were to buy online but cant find them
The 8" one is just over £4, now the Mobius manufacturer and eBay seller Kurt linked to at the beginning of the thread [and whom I bought my camera from] sells them. Now I received an email back from them today [Mandy] as I enquired if they did a longer cable, ANSWER CAME BACK NO the 8" [20cm] one is currently the only one they do. Though they are working on a longer one but not sure when they will have it.
My thinking regards possibly using a longer cable was that having aTitanium spec I have a Sun Glasses Case attached to the roof by the driver grab handle...........me thinking, good hiding place for the camera body if cable extension long enough. Now they are hoping to do a longer cable [#16 camera they do 8"/15" and 25" cables] but extending cable lengths can lead to technical problems.
One thing you do notice with the Mobius manufacture, they try and get things right, rushing to market is not their first priority
Now the above was backed up by the fact I found out on the DCT forum [a must join forum] that the makers don't list all they sell, on Ebay, I reckon because they are so busy as it is. But they told me in that email today they also have in stock the B lense Mobius, but then it could go out of stock very quickly hence they don't list them on eBay [because of the demand from their authorised sellers I assume ] But would have to be through PayPal not eBay. Not a problem that.
Unfortuneatly last time I asked that question they said they were not selling the B Lense Mobius via eBay because of supply problems. So I went and ordered one from Bang~good, would rather had ordered it via the manufacture because the other one they supplied arrive in eight day, Not a clue how long Bang~good will take to deliver.
So remember when emailing them, they do struggle sometimes to understand what your writing , for instance in that email I sent them, I told them I had purchased a B lense Mobius from Bang~good, saying I still did not understand why they dont sell them. Then I get the reply.......if I want one they will sell me one............That said their English understanding trumps my Chinese every day of the week
Now regards photo's of Rain Sensor housing space, well it would be a tight one if indeed it's possible at all. Think on, 8" extension cable installed aligned, and at same time attached to Mobius body it's self attached to back of mirror. Then the need to beable to get to same for memory card access, replacing battery in time.....
Look you got to do some ground work yourself mate, take the housing off, it can be a struggle see what your up against. Then there are possible interferance issues to contend with, but there are fixes out there. I could tell you everything , but better you empower yourself by reading this thread if it wont load for you register, as you need to do that to view photo stuff.
Great job on the rear view mount. I like it. Have you been using your two Möbius long and how reliable do you find them?
I'm looking into a rear view one as well. Have you got this hardwired in?
I have only received the one A lense Mobius that came last Monday, and the one hard wire cable that came this Saturday. You see I was only intending doing the front for now.
So I tried the Mobius in different positions on the windscreen on a mount, did road tests. Then I fashioned a mount for the rear of the sensor housing, did road tests, all on the Mobius battery you understand.
When the cable came on Saturday I fashioned a couple of brackets for the rear view Mobius [using the one camera to set it up] Like I say I made two brackets because I [wrongly as it happens] thought the first one was causing the camera to produce vibrating videos. On making a revised second bracket I came to the conclusion the problem lay elswhere, hence the solution with the rubber grommet.
You see windscreen mounted, or home made brackets mounted cameras attached to say the rain sensor housing. themselves attached to the windscreen. Dont suffer from vibration because the rubber seals around said screens absorb the vibrations transmitted from the road though the wheels to the body shell . Hence when I attached my rear view bracket to the body shell.....
Anyhow once I solved the vibration problem, I thought sod it, I'll use the one 3M 12v to 5v cable I have to hard wire the rear camera. I ran the cable across the rear of the roof, then down the "B" Pillar, the Ground wire was just long enought to connect to either of the Ground points in the front passenger side sill area. The Positive wire I had to extend a bit to reach the fuse board.
I took the decision to have both cams on their own cables wired back to a shared piggy back fuse on fuse number 108. Decided against tapping into the interior lighting circuit, so if either cable turns out to be less than reliable, they will not cause the interior lighting to fail, or me having to faff about fishing the inline fuse connector out of the roof headling, for testing.
So there you have it, as to reliability, to earlier to say, but my expereince with the camera, and what I've read about others experiences with the Mobius over on the Dash Cam Talk forum. Led me to order a "B" lense Mobius for the front as I was that impressed by the one I have, and another hard wire cable .Expecting camera to arrive possibly this Saturday if I'm lucky [bracket made and fixed in position] And again if I'm lucky the hard wire cable should be here by the following Saturday.
I'm doing this bracket again if I decide to put it there, same but slightly more forward and slightly higher so the back sits tight to the bit of the housing that abuts the back of the rear view mirror.
Like I say either side of the mirror and it video's part of the rain sensor housing, neither is it concealed. I'm of the opinion you either go for total concealment or have it situated where you can easly remove it if you feel inclined to. Besides hiding the rear one is impossible really, so might as well go for neat and accessible I reckon if you want front and rear covered. Besides it's reasuring seeing those little red indicators flashing in the cams.
Been told these [photo below] are the sticker tabs they use for mounting mirrors to windscreens, bit like 3M adhisive pads, in that they are discribed as heavy duty. [not used one yet] come two in a pack £1.19 a pack in local DIY
Some of you may have noticed I have altered the cradle the Mobius sits in, in that I can remove the Mobius from its cradle from either the front of the cradle or the rear of the cradle [handy if your wanting to mount it up close to the windscreen]
To ensure it is griped in place there are two "flooting " for want of a better word, pegs that sit at the ends of two "arms" either side of the cradle [ I'm being descriptive for the benefit of those who as yet have not seen the Mobius up close] they sit in the two screw holes on the back of the Mobius when its in its correctly retained position [locked]
To ensure it was "locked" into place when reversed, I just drilled two similar sized holes in the same position other end of the Mobius back. Would have provided a photo of same, only the crable it in the car attached to the bracket and I cannot be @rsed to go get it.
nice one V, the position looks good, I'm also looking at the possability of fashioning a bracket myself with parts canablised from the stock 3M screen mount the Mobius maker sells, so it can still be adjustable in the horizontal plane.
To all following this thread I posted this on ByrOn's Rear Facing Dash Cam thread, worth a read.
Been messing today, with the Mobius set up software and with two physical positions.
And to be honest we are not making movies are we, all it has to do is record what is going on on the road as we proceed down it.
So tucked in behind the RV mirror with a bit of housing shown in shot is fine really. That said to improve hide ability I may just order a 20cm cable lense extension for £4.11 and have a mess like Techmoan did http://www.youtube.c...h?v=9qx5fgy8f28. If it keeps me entertained for an afternoon its money well spent.
Got my Mobius today 8 days from ordering, very impressed, plus a stick to the screen mount using the link provided by Kurt in his first post on this thread. But awaiting the 12v to 5v 3 meter cable [from another supplier] to hard wire it in [again using Kurts guide]
Attached the screen mount with duck tape temporaly just above the "airbag" screen sticker and took it out for a spin. Well with the heat sink side facing down wards to give you access to the buttons the video recorded and played back upside down. Now whilst I have since sorted that with the "mSetup" Zip I downloaded later. The video on that first run straight out of the box also played back darker than it actually was, it was about that time when the lights set to Auto are about to come on. So I would be interested to know what settings you have yours on Kurt and you Ben as we are all using the standard lensed Mobius.
Oh and on that first run, as I have the "auto rain sensor " extended housing directly behind the "auto dimming" rear view mirror. Positioned where it was the playback had the corner of the extended housing in view. So I will have to find another position for it I'm afraid.
To miss videoing the housing it would have to move further sideways to the passenger side, away from the back of the rear view mirror [don't like that idea] There is the option to attach the mount to the rear and bottom of the rain sensor housing plumb centre, but that drops the camera below the mirror. Whilst hardly noticeable from the outside looking in from the front, it is highly visiable from outside the car looking in from either the passenger or drivers side.
Another option may be to sticky back Velcro the camera housing to the rear of the auto dimming mirror, or to the rear of the rain sensing extended housing and use a 20cm camera lense extension cable to allow me to afix the lens to the underside of the auto rairn sensor housing. Rather not but it might be the only option if I want it to de discreet from all angles. [ oh the joys of having the Titanium spec].................Ideas welcome, feel free to join in.