rhyds Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Stupid question of the week time... My MK2.5 apparently has ESP fitted. Now I understand what ABS does, and what Traction Control does, so what's the difference between ESP and simple ABS and Traction Control systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Monster Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 ABS: keeps wheels from locking under braking by modulating individual wheels. TC: reduces drive wheel spin by braking the spinning wheel and reducing throttle. ESP: Uses both systems and a couple of other sensors to keep the car heading in the right direction. So if it detects understeer while turning right, it will apply just the right rear brake to yaw the car round. Oversteer in the same corner would apply the left front to push the back into line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 ABS: keeps wheels from locking under braking by modulating individual wheels. TC: reduces drive wheel spin by braking the spinning wheel and reducing throttle. ESP: Uses both systems and a couple of other sensors to keep the car heading in the right direction. So if it detects understeer while turning right, it will apply just the right rear brake to yaw the car round. Oversteer in the same corner would apply the left front to push the back into line.Thanks. So. I probably would never notice the ESP side unless I got in serious trouble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinFC Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 10 hours ago, rhyds said: 13 hours ago, Wookie Monster said: ABS: keeps wheels from locking under braking by modulating individual wheels. TC: reduces drive wheel spin by braking the spinning wheel and reducing throttle. ESP: Uses both systems and a couple of other sensors to keep the car heading in the right direction. So if it detects understeer while turning right, it will apply just the right rear brake to yaw the car round. Oversteer in the same corner would apply the left front to push the back into line. Thanks. So. I probably would never notice the ESP side unless I got in serious trouble! Or in snowy conditions with low speed wheel spin, the ESP light will be flickering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Monster Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It can help to keep you out of trouble, but no substitute for using appropriate tyres. I had some 'normal' summer tyres on my car when we had the first lot of snow and they were hopeless in anything more than a hint of ice. Ran winters from december until last weekend and it was like driving a different car. ESP barely had anything to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyds Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, MartinFC said: Or in snowy conditions with low speed wheel spin, the ESP light will be flickering... I do get the ESP light on if I'm a bit heavy footed coming out of a junction, but I assume that's just the traction control side of the system cancelling out my size 10 lead foot. 1 hour ago, Wookie Monster said: It can help to keep you out of trouble, but no substitute for using appropriate tyres. I had some 'normal' summer tyres on my car when we had the first lot of snow and they were hopeless in anything more than a hint of ice. Ran winters from december until last weekend and it was like driving a different car. ESP barely had anything to do. The car has Dunlops all round. While I understand that no ESP system is going to save me from utter personal stupidity, its nice to understand what the system will try and do if such a situation occurs, rather than be like my mother who was freaked out when she felt the ABS kick in on her Astra and took her foot off the brake pedal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yungog Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 10 hours ago, rhyds said: I do get the ESP light on if I'm a bit heavy footed coming out of a junction, but I assume that's just the traction control side of the system cancelling out my size 10 lead foot. The car has Dunlops all round. While I understand that no ESP system is going to save me from utter personal stupidity, its nice to understand what the system will try and do if such a situation occurs, rather than be like my mother who was freaked out when she felt the ABS kick in on her Astra and took her foot off the brake pedal! Ye I think most people do that the first time they feel abs kick in. Previous car and motorbikes didn't have abs so when it kicked in first time in my cmax ,I was like wtf!!! :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwlkr Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 have a look at this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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