Eric Bloodaxe Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, st line x 140 driver said: The fiesta with the hill start assist i would never trust without handbrake applied too. Me neither, other than manoeuvring on a drive, etc! And I find you need to apply the handbrake very firmly, otherwise the HSA tricks you into thinking it's on, then the car rolls back when the HSA releases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Hill start assist doesn't work after using the handbrake for clarification. When you release the foot brake it'll release the HSA a few seconds later. You can feel the car rock back on the handbrake if you apply that after the HSA has been triggered. Important to note that the HSA doesn't hold from releasing the handbrake though, people might get the wrong idea there and roll back expecting the HSA to hold....which would actually be a more useful function! Personally I'm not a fan of HSA, auto hold is a much better system. HSA is a pain if you're creeping at a junction and then see a car coming so wait a few seconds...then it releases just before you lift the clutch. Yet if I want to parallel park on a hill it won't let me creep about, but instead lurches towards other cars. Who decided the idea of 3 seconds was significant? I don't understand what the point of releasing without any clutch bite is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 hours ago, TomsFocus said: Hill start assist doesn't work after using the handbrake for clarification. Quite so, Tom. Problem with the Mk 8 Fiesta is that to apply the handbrake properly you need to press the brake pedal very firmly before pulling the handbrake lever on. This, naturally, activates the HSA so as I mentioned earler, it can trick you into thinking the handbrake is on more firmly than it actually is. Then when HSA deactivates after a few seconds, the car can move. This may be more likely after leaving the car and the brakes cool. This could explain why some members have reported their cars rolling away while parked with the handbrake on (and shows why you should always leave it in gear). It doesn't explain why some have reported the HSA "deselecting itself" in the menus, though. (Never happened on mine). I suppose I really might as well deactivate mine as (like Simon) I don't rely on it. There is one situation in my regular driving routine (on a private drive) where it's actually vaguely useful, though - but even then, Auto Hold would be better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st line x 140 driver Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 If you were on a slope with handbrake on you would automatically put foot on brake once released activating hill start assist. You would then have 3 seconds to put it in gear and drive before car rolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENXIL Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hello! Any fixes for this yet? Anyone knows what is causing setting to change? (Hill assist turned on manually and then after couple weeks setting reverts to off position (unticked). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRF1T2020 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, DENXIL said: Hello! Any fixes for this yet? Anyone knows what is causing setting to change? (Hill assist turned on manually and then after couple weeks setting reverts to off position (unticked). Yes annoying I've turned this off and then a couple days later or same day it will set its self to on again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENXIL Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I would like to know what is exactly doing it. Potentially dangerous if you relaying on it and it happens to magically untick itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easyfit64 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 9/14/2020 at 11:49 PM, Easyfit64 said: This has been happening to mine only had it 3 months going In tomorrow for a check Car went in for checking It needed a software update. all ok now 8 months on still working as per the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easyfit64 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 5:14 PM, HRF1T2020 said: Yes annoying I've turned this off and then a couple days later or same day it will set its self to on again took mine in for a software update all ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easyfit64 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 4:02 PM, DENXIL said: Hello! Any fixes for this yet? Anyone knows what is causing setting to change? (Hill assist turned on manually and then after couple weeks setting reverts to off position (unticked). Took mine into main dealer software update all ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easyfit64 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 6/18/2018 at 10:11 PM, Matt12341234 said: Anyone else found their hill start assist turning off randomly? Haven't had the car 2 months yet but I've had to go into the settings 3 times and turn it back on. On 6/18/2018 at 10:11 PM, Matt12341234 said: Anyone else found their hill start assist turning off randomly? Haven't had the car 2 months yet but I've had to go into the settings 3 times and turn it back on. On 6/18/2018 at 10:11 PM, Matt12341234 said: Anyone else found their hill start assist turning off randomly? Haven't had the car 2 months yet but I've had to go into the settings 3 times and turn it back on. Tok mine into Main dealer for Software update all ok now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRF1T2020 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 8:31 PM, Easyfit64 said: Took mine into main dealer software update all ok now Well as mine is now out of warranty guess will have to leave it, as god knows how much they'll charge for a software update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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