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Hi all,

I'm looking to buy a 2015 Focus Zetec. I've been hearing a lot about ecoboost recalls lately.

Is there any way to check if my engine is affected? I've put the reg into various websites but they don't help much.

 

Thanks in advance

James

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If it's a facelifted model which it is likely to be on a 2015, i'm fairly certain they are not affected by the original recall for the coolant leak.

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Ok great. I popped the VIN number into the ETIS website and had this returned. All seems good and ligit? Buying from a good dealership too. I got stung on my previous car and nervous about it happening again. 189561117_ScreenShot2018-10-05at15_21_47.thumb.png.734159a88661e8d91750f3cc35f5351a.png

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Thanks Boris, Just finding out now! I haven't actually seen the car. Booked a test drive for tomorrow. All looks good on paper, but so did my last car and that turned out to be a nightmare.

 

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I just checked on ETIS (you can see more stuff if you have an account). The car is indeed mated with the Ford PowerShift transmission. Stay away from it - just read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_PowerShift_transmission#Faulty_operation and then Google Ford PowerShift. There is a design flaw in the transmission and it cannot be repaired for good. Chances are you will hate Ford for the rest of your life if you buy this car.

 

Look for the 1.0 EcoBoost engine. The automatic used with it is a conventional torque converter one and doesn't have this issue - that is if you want an auto. Otherwise, all the petrol engines are pretty good, especially in the newer cars after the 2014 facelift.

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Ok so, the guy at the Ford Dealership said this car doesn't have the transmittion. I'm confused now. Are they likely to lie? I'm buying this car through VW and they've spoken directly to Ford asking for me.

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And here is the recall: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/MC-10072057-7690.pdf

There are more experienced users than me around here so you might want to wait until they chime in.

 

Here is everything in ETIS in terms of spec/options:

Primary Features
Build Date:	26.01.2015
Vehicle Line:	Focus 2014-
Body Style:	5 Door Saloon
Version:	Series 70
Engine:	1.6L Duratec Ti-VCT (123PS) - Sigma
Transmission:	6 Speed Auto Transmission DPS6
Drive:	RHD FWD
Axle Ratio:	4.57
Emission:	Euro 6 Emissions
Air Conditioning:	Manual Air Conditioning
Territory:	(+)"GB"
Paint:	Frozen White
Interior Fabric:	Boost/View Charcoal Black
Minor Features
 Less Rear Mudflaps
 Less Front Door Sill Protection
 ACC Media Hub 2XUSB+AV+SD Slot
 Less Interior Pack
 Less Front Mudflaps
 With Hill Launch Assist
 Rear Passenger Door
 My Key
 With Manual Liftgate
 Saarlouis Plant Built
 Less Special Equipment Package
 Ford Corporate badge
 Less Sales badge
 Less Special Order Paint
 Less SVO Application/Label
 Marketing Level 1
 Less Dress Up RSO
 (-) SVP
 Less SIP
 Exterior Paint - Solid
 For Normal Temperature Zones
 Less VP Application Label
 Less Water Wading Equipment
 Less Mass Customization Package
 Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
 Less Tyre Repair Service Kit
 Less Global/Auto Closing
 Power Frt Window-1 Tch Dwn-Dr Only
 With Manual Rear Windows
 With Privacy Glass
 Grille - Upper Chrome Bar/Surround
 Acoustic Laminated Windscreen
 Less Windshield Heat Shielding
 With Heated Windscreen
 Less Console Ashtray
 With Padded Dash
 With Mini Overhead Console
 Full Floor Console With Armrest
 Int Environment Clr-Charcoal Black
 Int Feat Colour - Charcoal Black
 Less Front Floor mats
 Less Rear Floor mats
 With General Stowage Box
 With Conventional Headlining
 Sunvisor-Driver Vinyl W/Mirr Insert
 Sunvisor-Pass Vinyl W/Mirr Insert
 With Aluminum Interior Door Handles
 With LH Front Door Armrest
 With RH Front Door Armrest
 Less Rear Coat Hook
 Less Luggage Compartment Net Kit
 With Load Area Cover
 Less Load Compartment Loops
 Less Load Retention Net
 Less Decklid Liner
 With Load Floor Carpet
 Less Interior Partition
 Grille-Lower Surround - Dk Slf Clr
 Less roof rack
 Rocker Panel Moulding -Cladding C/K
 With Bright Door Frame Moulding
 Less Door Edge Guards
 Less Auxiliary roof rack Crossbars
 With Rear Spoiler
 With Dipping Rear View Mirror
 Dual Power Htd Signal Mirrors
 With Body Coloured Exterior Mirror
 With Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
 Passenger Seat Back Map Pocket
 With Front 2 Way Headrest
 With Driver Seat Recliner - Rotary
 With Passenger Seat Recliner-Rotary
 Less Seat Track Covers
 Less Special Seat Covers
 Less Special Front Seat Covers
 Less Special Rear Seat Covers
 With Two Piece Rear Seat Cushion
 With 60:40 Split - Folding Rr Seat
 With Integrated Rear Headrest
 Less Rear Seat Centre Armrest
 With Rear Center Head Restraint
 With Drivers Manual Lumbar Support
 Less Passenger Seat Lumbar Support
 Less Temp Control Driver Seat
 Less Temp Control Passengers Seat
 With Drvr/Passngr Seat Belt Minder
 With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
 With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
 Less Trailer Coupling
 Less Towing Pre-Pack
 With Front Towing Hook
 With Rear Towing Hooks
 Less Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
 Engine Cover - Under Hood
 Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
 Body Coloured Tailgate Handle
 Ignition Flip Key With Remote Unit
 With Leather Gear Shift Knob
 Steel Security Door Lock Shield
 With Child Proof Safety Lock
 With Remote Controlled Tailgate Release
 With Second Remote Ign Flip Key
 Less Door Auto Relocking
 With Door Dead Locks
 With Door Entry Remote Control Unit
 Less Keyless Entry System
 Capless Fuel Filler Without Lock
 With Int. Rear Window Wiper/Washer
 With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
 With Heated Washer Jet
 Less Headlamp Washer/Wiper
 Less Sun Roof
 Less Tonneau Cover
 Less U/Body Corrosion Protect
 Less Front Bumper Sensor Device
 Front Bumper - Painted Body Colour
 Less Front Bumper Extension
 Rear Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
 Less Rear Bumper Skirt
 Less Front License Plate Bracket
 Less Restraint Devices
 Air Curtain Restraint LH
 Air Curtain Restraint RH
 Less Rear Side Air Bag Restraint
 Less Occupant Sensor
 3 Part Seat Belt- European Regultn
 Retractable Rear Seat Belt-3Point
 With Driver Air Bag
 With Passenger Air Bag
 With Side Air Bag - Drivers Side
 With Side Air Bag - Passenger Side
 Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
 With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
 With Manual Adjust Frt.S.Belt Mount
 Style 1 Tether Anchorage Restraint
 Spare Wheel - Mini Steel
 Tyre Pressure Sensors - 433 MHZ
 With Standard Rear Shock Absorbers
 7 X 17" Aluminium Style 2 Wheels
 215/50 17" W Rated BSW Tyre
 Limited Service Mini Spare Tyre
 With Standard Tyre Tread - Front
 With Standard Tyre Tread - Rear
 Less Wheel Covers
 Locking Wheel Nuts
 Less Partitioning Bezels
 Less Radiator Shutters
 Components Unique For Alloy Wheels
 Less Frame Mounted Fuel Filter
 Cold Start -15 Deg C
 Less Immersion Heater
 Standard Electric Starter Motor
 Euro 6 Emissions
 With Standard Suspension
 Front Spring Load Class-I
 Rear Spring Load Class-P
 Single Exhaust
 With Plastic Moulded H/Brake Grip
 With Mechanical Parking Brake
 Standard Duty Fr/Rr Calp And Pads
 With Rear Drum Brakes
 Less Collision Mitigation System
 Less Low Speed Safety System
 Brakes-HLA/ESP/TC/ABS
 3.91/2.42/1.43/1.02/.868/.702
 Select Shift Tech (SST) W/Thm Swtc
 With High Back Front Seats
 Pollen/Carbon Filter
 With Recirculating Heater
 A/C Refrigerant-R134A
 Non Locking Capless Fuel Fill
 With Lead/Unleaded Fuel
 Less Gaseous Prep Pack
 With Fixed Foot Pedals
 Standard Foot Pedal Pad Design
 Hydraulic Pwr Steering-Speed Sensor
 With Manual Tilt/Slide Stg Column
 Steering Wheel - 3 Spoke Leather
 Less Heated Steering Wheel
 Less Speed Control
 Less Auxiliary Heater
 Conventional Instruments - Level 3
 With Instrument Cluster - Rheostat
 With MPH/KMH Speedometer
 With Trip Computer
 Less Instrument Gauges
 Dual Note Electric Horn
 Tyre Inflation Monitor Lvl II
 Less Compass Display
 MFD TFT Touch Screen With Nav
 Less Navigation System
 With Message Centre
 Nav Data-All Europe
 Emergency Assistance
 Less Driver Impairment Monitor
 Less Blind Spot Information System
 Less Lane Keeping Aid
 Less Speed Sign Recognition
 Thatcham Catergory 1 Alarm System
 With Safeguard Anti-Theft Sys(Pats)
 Less Rear Parking Aid
 Less Front Parking Aid
 Less Automated Parking System
 Standard Duty battery
 Less A/V Jack
 ICE-Scd Dual/5th Ch/Tmc/Dab/Pd
 ICE Feature Pack 11
 ICP - Mini Electronic Finish Panel
 With 6 Speakers
 Less Radio Subwoofer
 Less Cell Phone Interface System
 Sync II With Navigation
 With Steering Wheel Radio Controls
 Less Electrical Outlet
 Less Smokers Package
 Less Power Point Plug - Rear
 Less Camera
 Less Style Pack
 Less Auto Headlamps
 With Bright Fog Lamp Bezel
 With Halogen Headlamp
 DTRL Lamp Lit In Pos 0 And Pos
 With Front Fog Lamps
 With Black Headlamp Bezels
 Less Interior Light Group
 Less Footwell Lights
 Less Header Mounted Map Light
 With Front And Rear Lamp Bulb
 With Glove Box Illumination
 With Load Compartment Lamp
 Tail lamps - LED Rear
 With High Mounted Stop Lamp
 With Single Rear Fog Lamp
 With Front Headlamp Levelling
 Less Headlamp Control
 Outside Air Temperature Present

 

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Sorry to keep banging on. The guy at the garage is saying the 6 speed automatic transmission isn't the same as the power shift? I'm going to call Ford directly tomorrow before my test drive. Do you think they're trying to pull a fast one?

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Just read the Wikipedia description for the PowerShift:

The Ford PowerShift is a six-speed dual clutch semi-automatic transmission produced by the Ford Motor Company

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2 hours ago, mogs84 said:

Sorry to keep banging on. The guy at the garage is saying the 6 speed automatic transmission isn't the same as the power shift? I'm going to call Ford directly tomorrow before my test drive. Do you think they're trying to pull a fast one?

definatly the dct250 powershit transmission. walk away. thats the only auto transmission with the 1.6 na engine

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5 hours ago, mogs84 said:

Ok so, the guy at the Ford Dealership said this car doesn't have the transmittion. I'm confused now. Are they likely to lie? 

Most sales staff at dealerships are on bad hourly rates. But they can make £60+ for every car they sell in commission. 

I previously worked for ford, but not as sales staff. 

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17 hours ago, mogs84 said:

Ok so, the guy at the Ford Dealership said this car doesn't have the transmittion. I'm confused now. Are they likely to lie? I'm buying this car through VW and they've spoken directly to Ford asking for me.

Yes!

I made the mistake of buying from Evans Halshaw - a ford dealer. They denied knowledge of the ecoboost fault despite it being well known on the internet, here and even ford themselves acknowledge it. 

Thabkfully I got a full refund and ditched their dodgy faulty car. I went to another ford dealer - Bristol street motors and they were much better. 

Some dealerships will tell you what they need to if it means you’ll buy the car. Avoid Evans Halshaw and avoid whichever dealership it was that denied the fault when clearly it affects that car. 

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never believe a word from a sales rep when buying anything... (best not to talk to them ever if you can avoid it)  people good at sales have no decency, lying and bullsh1t is a game they enjoy

as for the box they get a 5 year warranty these days...  its the 2011 ones u need to worry about (design fault and poor seals leak oil, and the clutch material is rubbish)

from 2014 the gearbox is fine, but the software is a bit ropey and the later clutch material is still an issue (again should be resolved under warranty no issues)

from june 2016 there are no issues at all

 

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6 hours ago, mogs84 said:

Hmm. It seems like this is too much of a risk. I think I'm going to keep looking. Thanks for all your help. 

Bear in mind it's the DCT250 box fitted to smaller output engines that is the problem child, the DCT450 fitted to the higher output engines doesn't have the same sh1te reputation.

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  • 2 months later...

Hi bronc,  I’ve been looking at a late 2016 Mondeo 2.0 TDI with Powershift, I understand it’s the “wet” transmission which requires a oil and filter change every 36,000 miles.

I’m hearing conflicting stories on this variant. Some are saying it’s fine providing you keep the service intervals, whilst others are saying that it’s still has a high failure rate (although significantly better than the dry variant).

I’d welcome your views on this please.

Thanks in advance.

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On 10/6/2018 at 10:49 AM, Pebbleheed said:

Yes!

I made the mistake of buying from Evans Halshaw - a ford dealer. They denied knowledge of the ecoboost fault despite it being well known on the internet, here and even ford themselves acknowledge it. 

Thabkfully I got a full refund and ditched their dodgy faulty car. I went to another ford dealer - Bristol street motors and they were much better. 

Some dealerships will tell you what they need to if it means you’ll buy the car. Avoid Evans Halshaw and avoid whichever dealership it was that denied the fault when clearly it affects that car. 

Your problems started the moment you used EH, I've never seen a car dealer chain with such consistently poor reviews online (virtually every site).

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