can it be my clutch slipping just noticed today going up a big hill with a full car load of people seems to slip a bit but pedal is ok if it is how much are we looking at to get new one car is  ford focus 2008 tdci

~£350 fully fitted for a 1.6 TDCi clutch kit.  

DMF should be fine unless you keep slipping it.

If it's only the occasional slip when fully loaded you can probably get away with leaving it a bit longer.

30 minutes ago, lasthope said:

can it be my clutch slipping just noticed today going up a big hill with a full car load of people seems to slip a bit but pedal is ok if it is how much are we looking at to get new one car is  ford focus 2008 tdci

I paid £480 in 2016 at an independent.  My clutch started slipping on the Mull of Kintyre in Scotland (a wild and lonely place)  and I drove it all the way home lol

this seem ok whats crack with the solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit..

 

Hi mate would be £350 for new clutch kit fitted that's the best one and if it needed a dual mass flywheel would be extra £240. I can have a shop about for some cheaper option if you want like a solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit?

6 minutes ago, lasthope said:

this seem ok whats crack with the solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit..

 

Hi mate would be £350 for new clutch kit fitted that's the best one and if it needed a dual mass flywheel would be extra £240. I can have a shop about for some cheaper option if you want like a solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit?

I'm fairly certain your DMF will be fine anyway.  But even if not, don't bother with the solid conversion imo, causes more problems in the long run.  Only worth it if you want to run big power and thrash around on track.

 

ok thanks tom when I drive the car normal it seems fine just when I stick foot down it slips a bit just up hills lol

1 hour ago, lasthope said:

ok thanks tom when I drive the car normal it seems fine just when I stick foot down it slips a bit just up hills lol

Cheapest option is just to avoid hills then....  Not sure how easy that'll be in Durham though lol.

 

I tom lots of hills and sheep lol was out lastnite going up few hills but not going hard never slipped once lol

 

the DMF is not just there to help a bad driver seem better. a key element is that its a torsional vibration damper.... it helps absorb a twisting motion of the engine's crank shaft, left uncontrolled (which is what happens when idiots fit a solid flywheel) the crank could snap in half.  Whilst I've not heard many doing this (probably coz the tractor engines are horrid tank like cancer producers) the risk will be much higher and the additional NVH makes the car unpleasant to drive and it will wear other stuff out

a good mate didn't fit a new DMF and kept driving eventually the pully on the other end came loose and aside from a break down, even with a new DMF and a pair of drive shafts the pulley fell off again and needed a whole short engine to resolve

one brother on his transit van decided to go solid, hated the van after and swears blind to this day it wrecked the gearbox and axel with all the extra vibrations

other brother on his Vauxhall Renault Nissan van went solid and also notices its nowhere near as nice to drive and seem to suffer more breakdowns, also needed new drive shafts 

What staggered me from pot's above, was I thought a Ford DMF was well known for only managing in the area of 20k miles against a Vauxhall one's 90k.  Oddly we don't see many complain here but my brother would never get more than 30k from a genuine one on his transit....

 

No such thing as a 'Ford' DMF.  They're different on different engines. 

The 1.6 TDCi DMF is actually a decent design, it's filled with grease instead of the conventional springs so takes abuse far better and rarely wears out before the clutch.

The Mk3 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi DMF on the other hand is a very common failure.  

20k on a modern DMF is just daft though, 80-90k is fairly standard for a conventional DMF under average use.

I cheers for all the replay so I am going for the DMF one as stranded been out today up some big hills no slips whats best way of telling it slips

On 9/6/2019 at 10:14 AM, lasthope said:

this seem ok whats crack with the solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit..

 

Hi mate would be £350 for new clutch kit fitted that's the best one and if it needed a dual mass flywheel would be extra £240. I can have a shop about for some cheaper option if you want like a solid flywheel and clutch conversion kit?

An SMF on a TDCi 1.8 is not a good idea mate.  The engine might be virtually bombproof (as a positive) but on the downside it does generate a lot of vibration (even for a diesel) and the DMF helps to protect the rest of the drivetrain from this.  With the labour involved I'd just take the hit and also have the DMF done, if you don't and the DMF fails in 6 months you'll have the smae amount of labour to pay for a second time.

1 minute ago, 1979Damian said:

An SMF on a TDCi 1.8 is not a good idea mate.  The engine might be virtually bombproof (as a positive) but on the downside it does generate a lot of vibration (even for a diesel) and the DMF helps to protect the rest of the drivetrain from this.  With the labour involved I'd just take the hit and also have the DMF done, if you don't and the DMF fails in 6 months you'll have the smae amount of labour to pay for a second time.

He's got a 1.6, not a 1.8.  

22 hours ago, lasthope said:

I cheers for all the replay so I am going for the DMF one as stranded been out today up some big hills no slips whats best way of telling it slips

Sometimes they do only slip occasionally, often worse if you've been slipping it in stop start traffic and then boot it up hill for example.  Sometimes they do bed back in ok.  You might as well wait until the slipping gets worse, just not until it's totally undriveable as that'll wreck the DMF lol.

1 minute ago, TomsFocus said:

He's got a 1.6, not a 1.8.  

Sometimes they do only slip occasionally, often worse if you've been slipping it in stop start traffic and then boot it up hill for example.  Sometimes they do bed back in ok.  You might as well wait until the slipping gets worse, just not until it's totally undriveable as that'll wreck the DMF lol.

LOL, Monday morning blindness!