Alex.S Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Am I correct that all st-line x come with a modem as standard? I’ve had my 69 plate just over a week and looking to get that set up if possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcr1 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That's right, but Ford give you 3 months or 3gb of free data to use, outside of that you've got to buy your own. You set it up through the Ford Pass app on your mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyr55 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Vodafone.... £100 year,, 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 A pay as you go option would’ve been good! I’m not in the car enough to justify £100, use my data I guess.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just a note, you probably already know but this 3gb is for the car to be a hotspot. It's nothing to do with the live traffic or connected features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Guy Heaton said: Just a note, you probably already know but this 3gb is for the car to be a hotspot. It's nothing to do with the live traffic or connected features. Is that Ford Navigation you’re talking about? I assume Auto Android uses data if not connected to the modem? Connected features?..Bluetooth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Android auto would use your phone data I'd assume. But sync3ive traffic etc is not part of that 3gb. That 3gb is for you to use the car as a WiFi hotspot. The dealer should have sorted the connected features, live traffic, telemetry etc at handover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Guy Heaton said: Android auto would use your phone data I'd assume. But sync3ive traffic etc is not part of that 3gb. That 3gb is for you to use the car as a WiFi hotspot. The dealer should have sorted the connected features, live traffic, telemetry etc at handover. I can’t find the live traffic option. The dealer would have set it up I’m sure. I take it it’s traffic updates on Ford Navigation? I’d been using google maps cause I’m a bit more used to it but the built in navigation is very good I’ve realised. You on Apple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Guy Heaton said: Android auto would use your phone data I'd assume. But sync3ive traffic etc is not part of that 3gb. That 3gb is for you to use the car as a WiFi hotspot. The dealer should have sorted the connected features, live traffic, telemetry etc at handover. You’ve got exact same car I have , what mpg are you getting? Honest John has it averaging at 32.9mpg im getting 29mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm Android. OnePlus. I'm getting 32mpg, 3000 miles in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Andy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Alex.S said: what mpg are you getting? Honest John has it averaging at 32.9mpg im getting 29mpg On my mk4 125ps petrol estate (titanium x - just turned 7,000 miles on the clock) I'm averaging about 35mpg which is a little less than I was getting on my previous car (SEAT Exeo 2.0 143 TDI diesel - average about 39mpg) but better than my car before that (Toyota Avensis 2.0 D4 VVT-i GDI petrol - average 29mpg). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avi Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 11:50 PM, Alex.S said: Am I correct that all st-line x come with a modem as standard? I’ve had my 69 plate just over a week and looking to get that set up if possible ? Will the car connect to a mobile phone hotspot ? In my Mk3.5 the car wifi connects to my phone hotspot, so it just uses data on phone as a tethered device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, avi said: Will the car connect to a mobile phone hotspot ? In my Mk3.5 the car wifi connects to my phone hotspot, so it just uses data on phone as a tethered device. You only have to pay for the hotspot, it has it's own cellular modem, what would be the advantage of it tethering with your phone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, alexp999 said: You only have to pay for the hotspot, it has it's own cellular modem, what would be the advantage of it tethering with your phone? Am I right in saying the built in Navigation is GPS and has nothing to do with Internet? and the modem in the boot is really just to save using data on our phones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Alex.S said: Am I right in saying the built in Navigation is GPS and has nothing to do with Internet? and the modem in the boot is really just to save using data on our phones? The sat nav uses pre-loaded maps. The modem allows remote connectivity features, telemetry, traffic data to support the sat nav and has the option of paying to provide a wifi hotspot. So my point was that the car has it's own modem, there is no point it connecting through your phone to access the interent, when it can do it itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, avi said: Will the car connect to a mobile phone hotspot ? In my Mk3.5 the car wifi connects to my phone hotspot, so it just uses data on phone as a tethered device. I think that means the mk3.5 doesn’t have WiFi but u can use a phone as a dongle 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, alexp999 said: The sat nav uses pre-loaded maps. The modem allows remote connectivity features, telemetry, traffic data to support the sat nav and has the option of paying to provide a wifi hotspot. So my point was that the car has it's own modem, there is no point it connecting through your phone to access the interent, when it can do it itself. Without paying for WiFi the modem still has a purpose then? also, my Ford Navigation has shops near me listed that closed a lot of years ago! The cars brand new! The maps can’t work without GPS? Traffic alerts also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Alex.S said: Without paying for WiFi the modem still has a purpose then? also, my Ford Navigation has shops near me listed that closed a lot of years ago! The cars brand new! The latest maps for Sync 3 are currently F8, so 2018. Yes even if you don't pay for the Wifi hotspot, it will use the modem for traffic update, remote connectivity to fordpass app and also for the SOS button and emergency assistance. Ford UK currently say that after 2 yrs, you will have to pay for traffic and remote connectivity, but then Ford USA have just announced they are scrapping the fees and keeping that stuff free for the life of the car, so I'd expect Europe to follow suit by the time the car is 2yrs old. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianincheshire Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Quote I'd expect Europe to follow suit by the time the car is 2yrs old. Really? Since when have Ford UK had the same customer care attitude as the USA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-UK Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Alex.S said: also, my Ford Navigation has shops near me listed that closed a lot of years ago! The cars brand new! Theoretically you can go to the Here Maps editor site and delete/add/move those shops, not sue if it actually works as my 2019 Sync3 is according to ford"up-to-date" on maps F7 https://mapcreator.here.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Mark-UK said: Theoretically you can go to the Here Maps editor site and delete/add/move those shops, not sue if it actually works as my 2019 Sync3 is according to ford"up-to-date" on maps F7 https://mapcreator.here.com/ First one I noticed was a bakery 1/2 mile from my house, closed a decade ago! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avi Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 hours ago, alexp999 said: You only have to pay for the hotspot, it has it's own cellular modem, what would be the advantage of it tethering with your phone? Using the phone doesn't require an additional sim card or cost anything more if used within your data allowance. My phone as unlimited data, so no point paying for an extra sim as I always have the phone with me. The Mk3.5 doesn't have integrated mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 You don't pay for the modem in the car either if you don't use the hotspot, which you won't if you use your phone's data connection. All I'm saying there is literally no point having the option for the car to use your phone's data connection, it has its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avi Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 hours ago, alexp999 said: All I'm saying there is literally no point having the option for the car to use your phone's data connection, it has its own. Is mobile airtime free for life in the car hotspot ? What network does it use, on what tariff ? If it's free and never expires even if you don't use it, then I agree. I use my phone as a car hot spot so the kids/missus etc can use their tablets for music, video etc. Works a treat, but eats a lot of data on longer journeys. Good news is it doesn't cost me anymore, as it's included in my £15 pm phone plan. If its free to do this using the car mobile connection that great, if not it "may" be cheaper to use the phone as a hotspot depending on how much data is used and the phone airtime cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It uses Vodafone afaik, you never pay for the actual SIM or data connection only the features that run on it. My point is that you can use your phone as the hotspot, no point connecting the phone to the car for it to use the data connection. It doesn't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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