Alex.S Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, richardc1983 said: Sorry can someone explain how I get this ford pass traffic on my 2018 mk3.5 focus st3? I think it needs a modem bud.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Afaik you could get it through the Ford pass app on your phone if you don't have a modem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 That reminds me, there was a Mondeo owner on this thread said he got live traffic thru his phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLB Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, Alex.S said: That reminds me, there was a Mondeo owner on this thread said he got live traffic thru his phone. So, if Live Traffic can be obtained without a modem through your phone is there any reason why you shouldn’t also get the Traffic Hazard information ? Or am I missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLB Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, PLB said: So, if Live Traffic can be obtained without a modem through your phone is there any reason why you shouldn’t also get the Local Hazard information ? Or am I missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyr55 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 So updates for: sync 3.4 maps F8/9/10 live traffic local hazard is it a case of Ford have your money and couldn’t care a fig About customers !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.S Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, PLB said: 2 hours ago, PLB said: So, if Live Traffic can be obtained without a modem through your phone is there any reason why you shouldn’t also get the Traffic Hazard information ? Or am I missing something. As far as I can tell , the local hazard information is now almost all the big manufacturers using HERE technologies, I’m not sure about modem but using lidar camera to collect information on literally millions of cars. Modem will send and receive information but a mobile phone is basically a modem too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-UK Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 It it just me, but I'm now seeing red lines on the map where road are congested much more often, even on local A roads , or have I just been lucky for the last year and had traffic free motoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mark-UK said: It it just me, but I'm now seeing red lines on the map where road are congested much more often, even on local A roads , or have I just been lucky for the last year and had traffic free motoring I've noticed this on Google Maps recently...I think it's all the joggers and cyclists confusing the system as it uses the 'speed' of mobile phone movement to estimate congestion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erictcleric Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Alex.S said: That reminds me, there was a Mondeo owner on this thread said he got live traffic thru his phone. That'd be me, and yes the live traffic works via my phone and the FordPass app. So it does seem a bit odd Ford would charge for that when using the car's built in modem (which I don't have). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Ford have to pay for the cellular connection on the modem, where you are paying for the connection on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erictcleric Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, alexp999 said: Ford have to pay for the cellular connection on the modem, where you are paying for the connection on your phone. True, but tomtom don't charge me for their live traffic updates, and it's not a huge amount of data. Is there a lifetime updates option with Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, erictcleric said: True, but Tomtom don't charge me for their live traffic updates, and it's not a huge amount of data. Is there a lifetime updates option with Ford? How does your tomtom collect traffic updates? A lot of sat navs (at least used to) have a separate antenna which picked up the traffic broadcasts, they didn't rely on a cellular connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erictcleric Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 It has a built-in SIM card and uses a mobile network. It's definitely not the old skool traffic broadcasts, and it does access the Internet. That said, it wasn't a cheap tomtom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 The 3.4 consumer upgrade package (designed for owners) has been uploaded to Ford's servers, so shouldn't be long before it starts rolling out. It's usually done in waves, different models at a time, even if the actual package is the same given to everyone eventually. ; SYNC3 Consumer Assembly Upgrade - Release 3.4.43 - Only for Nav/EU assemblies. [SYNCGen3.0_3.4.20136] Item1 = HB5T-14G386-VEB Open1 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VEB.tar.gz Item2 = HB5T-14G386-VGA Open2 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VGA.tar.gz Item3 = HB5T-14G386-VHA Open3 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VHA.tar.gz Item4 = HB5T-14G386-VCB Open4 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VCB.tar.gz Item5 = 5U5T-14G381-ED Open5 = SyncMyRide\5U5T-14G381-ED.tar.gz Item6 = GB5T-14G386-AC Open6 = SyncMyRide\GB5T-14G386-AC.tar.gz Options = AutoInstall It should be noted this isn't the map, Ford might be intending to rollout the software update first, then offer map update after. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I think it might be time to switch off ota updates then. I don't want the ability to reset oil life taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyallan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I wish the turn now instructions came a bit sooner. Even turn at this junction. I ended up driving by my turning yesterday in an unfamiliar area as there were 2 junctions one after the other. Really wasn't sure and it said turn now as I passed 1st one which it was meant to be.Yeah I know should also look for road names etc but it did catch me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark-UK Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Guy Heaton said: I think it might be time to switch off ota updates then. I don't want the ability to reset oil life taken away. I suspect that will be taken away at your next dealer service (if they are keeping abreast of all OFS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Heaton Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, gillyallan said: I wish the turn now instructions came a bit sooner. Even turn at this junction. I ended up driving by my turning yesterday in an unfamiliar area as there were 2 junctions one after the other. Really wasn't sure and it said turn now as I passed 1st one which it was meant to be. Yeah I know should also look for road names etc but it did catch me out. Mine shows the junction on the right of the screen and a bar shows the distance to the turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyallan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Mine shows the junction on the right of the screen and a bar shows the distance to the turn.Yeah so does mine but I still missed it. Yeah I know I need to get better at using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 9:29 AM, alexp999 said: Afaik you could get it through the Ford pass app on your phone if you don't have a modem. Yes I've got the ford pass app and went onto subscriptions and it wanted to charge me to add live traffic on I thought it was going to be complimentary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 15 hours ago, alexp999 said: The 3.4 consumer upgrade package (designed for owners) has been uploaded to Ford's servers, so shouldn't be long before it starts rolling out. It's usually done in waves, different models at a time, even if the actual package is the same given to everyone eventually. ; SYNC3 Consumer Assembly Upgrade - Release 3.4.43 - Only for Nav/EU assemblies. [SYNCGen3.0_3.4.20136] Item1 = HB5T-14G386-VEB Open1 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VEB.tar.gz Item2 = HB5T-14G386-VGA Open2 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VGA.tar.gz Item3 = HB5T-14G386-VHA Open3 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VHA.tar.gz Item4 = HB5T-14G386-VCB Open4 = SyncMyRide\HB5T-14G386-VCB.tar.gz Item5 = 5U5T-14G381-ED Open5 = SyncMyRide\5U5T-14G381-ED.tar.gz Item6 = GB5T-14G386-AC Open6 = SyncMyRide\GB5T-14G386-AC.tar.gz Options = AutoInstall It should be noted this isn't the map, Ford might be intending to rollout the software update first, then offer map update after. Will this be coming to all Sync 3 cars such as 2018 ford focus mk3.5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, richardc1983 said: Will this be coming to all Sync 3 cars such as 2018 ford focus mk3.5? No, only cars with Sync 3.2+. 6 minutes ago, richardc1983 said: Yes I've got the ford pass app and went onto subscriptions and it wanted to charge me to add live traffic on I thought it was going to be complimentary? Live traffic is not complimentary, only some of the "connected" features on cars with modems, like remote locking, location, fuel, etc. The fordpass app features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc1983 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, alexp999 said: No, only cars with Sync 3.2+. Live traffic is not complimentary, only some of the "connected" features on cars with modems, like remote locking, location, fuel, etc. The fordpass app features. That's frustrating then. In ford pass fuel doesnt show anything although you can see a fuel gauge but no marker on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Each line tells you what's in the update and what "cars"/systems it's targeted at: Item1 = HB5T-14G386-VEB "Is this system 3.2 hardware?" Item2 = HB5T-14G386-VGA "Is this system running 3.3 software?" Item3 = HB5T-14G386-VHA "Is this system running 3.4 software?" Item4 = HB5T-14G386-VCB "Is this system the 64GB (Nav) version?" Item5 = 5U5T-14G381-ED The actual update Item6 = GB5T-14G386-AC Create XML log file 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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