Owen Connelly Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I hit a Curb in the snow in February 2019, even since then my front brake discs keep warping, I’ve had 6 sets of discs and pads on there. Near side front hub has been replaced as that was bent from hitting the curb, had several garages look and all say they can’t find a problem. I’ve asked my local ford dealer they’ve never heard of a problem like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgservo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If the wheel bearing is new also, the caliper is the same? Put new slider pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I had a similar problem years ago when a back street mechanic used discs from China made of sintered metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, fgservo said: If the wheel bearing is new also, the caliper is the same? Put new slider pins Yeah had both new parts and slider pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobr said: I had a similar problem years ago when a back street mechanic used discs from China made of sintered metal. I’ve even tired sport brakes(high performance) still warped after 400 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Owen Connelly said: Yeah had both new parts and slider pins Was the whole knuckle replaced or just the bearing hub? Also were both the carrier & caliper replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Was the whole knuckle replaced or just the bearing hub? Also were both the carrier & caliper replaced? Yeah was the whole thing and yeah had all that replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Ok, well it's either poor quality parts or your driving then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Are you bedding in the brakes? Do you brake all the way down a steep hill? Do you sit at junctions with your foot on the brake? Who fitted the parts, are the mating surfaces clean? I suspect they will be if all new, but has excessive copper grease been used? Was the suspension arm damaged considering the hub/knuckle was? a damaged/faulty ball joint will cause juddering when braking. And as above, poor quality parts used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_T Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Frembrit said: Are you bedding in the brakes? Do you brake all the way down a steep hill? Do you sit at junctions with your foot on the brake? Who fitted the parts, are the mating surfaces clean? I suspect they will be if all new, but has excessive copper grease been used? Was the suspension arm damaged considering the hub/knuckle was? a damaged/faulty ball joint will cause juddering when braking. And as above, poor quality parts used? As above, when you took it to the garage the 2nd time alarm bells should have started ringing with them! Discs don't warp for no reason and all the above really needs to be checked thoroughly. I'm very surprised they've managed to get a warranty claim on 6 sets of discs and pads on the same vehicle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Nick_T said: As above, when you took it to the garage the 2nd time alarm bells should have started ringing with them! Discs don't warp for no reason and all the above really needs to be checked thoroughly. I'm very surprised they've managed to get a warranty claim on 6 sets of discs and pads on the same vehicle! They didn’t get a warranty claim 6 times so you guess how much it’s cost me! I’ve been asked them Questions by the garage and the answer is no to all them. I’ve had the suspension arm replaced and had tie rod and track rod replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_T Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Unfortunately I can guess. Can they tell you which side has warped, at least then you can rule out one side of the car. Any excessive heat that can be felt from the wheel after driving? Does the car freewheel okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Nick_T said: Unfortunately I can guess. Can they tell you which side has warped, at least then you can rule out one side of the car. Any excessive heat that can be felt from the wheel after driving? Does the car freewheel okay? Both sides warp this is the problem I hit the front left into the curb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 If both sides are warping it is 100% just the discs at fault. Are the garage confirming they're actually warped with a dial guage? Either they're not being bed in properly, or they're just cheap rubbish to start with. Have the brands been noted on the invoices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: If both sides are warping it is 100% just the discs at fault. Are the garage confirming they're actually warped with a dial guage? Either they're not being bed in properly, or they're just cheap rubbish to start with. Have the brands been noted on the invoices? Had Brembo and aftermarket drilled and grooves one still happens and yes the garage confirmed with a dial gauge and the tracking keeps going out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Owen Connelly said: Had brembo and aftermarket drilled and grooves one still happens and yes the garage confirmed with a dial gauge and the tracking keeps going out Ah, the Brembo discs are utter *****! And unbranded aftermarkets will also be *****, especially when they've already been weakened with holes and grooves lol. Get something decent on there instead. Tracking is unrelated, either so eyhibgs bent or you've got a dodgy bush or call joint doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Ah, the Brembo discs are utter *****! And unbranded aftermarkets will also be *****, especially when they've already been weakened with holes and grooves lol. Get something decent on there instead. Tracking is unrelated, either so eyhibgs bent or you've got a dodgy bush or call joint doing that. What discs do you recommend then? And what is eyhibgs? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Owen Connelly said: What discs do you recommend then? And what is eyhibgs? 😂 The eyhibgs fit onto the call joints obviously... Autocorrect ftw! It was meant to be 'somethings' and 'ball joints'. I haven't had any problems with Pagid discs myself so stick with them now. Avoid eicher as they seem to warp before even being fitted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 I’ll ask the garage to use them then and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Had new pagid discs and pads put on today will see what happens with these ones, hopefully there good 🙏🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 12/19/2019 at 6:56 PM, Owen Connelly said: Had new pagid discs and pads put on today will see what happens with these ones, hopefully there good 🙏🏻 Just an update 1045 miles later the warping is back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Owen Connelly said: Just an update 1045 miles later the warping is back Both discs warped & confirmed with dial gauge? Not sure what more to suggest now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Connelly Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Both discs warped & confirmed with dial gauge? Not sure what more to suggest now! Yes both confirmed with dial gauge!!!and I don’t think anyone does now 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Owen Connelly said: Yes both confirmed with dial gauge!!!and I don’t think anyone does now 😂 Lol, there must be something really simple we're all missing! If you ever do find the fault, make sure to update us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 How hard did you curb it? The next investigation I would recommend is having the front end geometry of the car checked, it could be that the front chassis is bent out of geometry to a certain degree. Does the car run straight at low speed, level flat road, no hands on steering wheel or does it wander to one side? If that's what's causing your ongoing problem there is in my mind only one way you'd cure it, trade it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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