g1zm0 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Hi . Got these from china , but got some questions. (tryed to upload pictures but kept saying -200) They are foglamp ones that have a tick that goes from side along bottom , then 3 bars next to it . It has a black box with 3 bunches of wires . I bunch is the battery one . It has Black . Red with inline fuse and brown. Then theres another 2 bunches with the socket that plugs into the drl and one has a yellow and blue wire . But the other only has a yellow I know that the black is ground , red is live and the brown is switched live acc The blue is headlamp and yellow Is turn signal . So I take it these are defections as there is only one yellow for turn signal . Anyone installed these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Do you have a link to the ones you have bought?Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 If the red is live and the brown is switched live, does that not mean that the DRL will be getting a permanent live?Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 Hi they are same as these ones . eBay item no 254518417384 On there instructions it says brown is acc and the red has a fuse. That's +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennvoqation Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Quick tip, try the wires with a 9v battery or something that can provide power. That'll help you determine your power lines and earth. If it's the type of LED light I'm thinking of you'll have: DRL High DRL Low Sequential Indicator. So check each lead to see what it does before installing it. You'll need a multi-meter and test each pin out on the headlamp to get an idea of what wires do what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I have never seen one like this but as far as I know from experience. Red + Black - Yellow (sequential to indicator) Blue (tapped to the headlight/sidelight) that's why only 1 But some new ones are blue acc for delay off and white to headlight/sidelight. That's the most basic setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 On instructions it says that it does dim . The wiring guide on it says Brown =acc Yellow =turn signal Blue=headlamp Black=ground Red=connected to b+ of car Maby it has one blue so when it senses the lights are on it will dim the leds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Yes that's correct and if it says that order then it should be correct as one blue is only required when switching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 That's what I was going to suggest, there is only one blue wire as it is just there to tell the control unit to dim the DRL. So on that basis you could leave the blue wire disconnected and they wouldn't dim at all. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand why you connect the red to a permanent live [emoji2369] surely that would mean the lamps were lit all the time? I'm maybe over thinking it and overlooking something very obviousSent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jonro2009 said: That's what I was going to suggest, there is only one blue wire as it is just there to tell the control unit to dim the DRL. So on that basis you could leave the blue wire disconnected and they wouldn't dim at all. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand why you connect the red to a permanent live surely that would mean the lamps were lit all the time? I'm maybe over thinking it and overlooking something very obvious Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk No the power goes through the controller that determines on/off based on the power output. If the ignition is turned off the power drops to a certain level where the controller then finishes its delayed turn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 So to wire these bad boys up . Blue to headlamp . Yellow to indicators. Black to ground of battery or chassis. So red to battery and where in the fuse box will I get the acc from To clip the wires on to the headlamp and indicator wires am I better using scotch locks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennvoqation Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, g1zm0 said: So to wire these bad boys up . Blue to headlamp . Yellow to indicators. Black to ground of battery or chassis. So red to battery and where in the fuse box will I get the acc from To clip the wires on to the headlamp and indicator wires am I better using scotch locks Strip the plastic around the wire, solder it on and then wrap in electrical cloth tape if you have it or use black tape if you don't but be aware it can get messy after a few years. That'll give you the best connection. By stripping part of the wire you can determine if you have the right wire and test the lights work as expected as an added bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 No the power goes through the controller that determines on/off based on the power output. If the ignition is turned off the power drops to a certain level where the controller then finishes its delayed turn off. Ok, so there is power going to the controller all the time but the DRL only illuminates when both inputs (permanent and switched) are recieving power. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jonro2009 said: Ok, so there is power going to the controller all the time but the DRL only illuminates when both inputs (permanent and switched) are recieving power. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Yeh but it doesn't cause any power loss I used one for 3 and half years on my mk2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ennvoqation said: Strip the plastic around the wire, solder it on and then wrap in electrical cloth tape if you have it or use black tape if you don't but be aware it can get messy after a few years. That'll give you the best connection. By stripping part of the wire you can determine if you have the right wire and test the lights work as expected as an added bonus. I didn't even solder mines they were just wrapped around the stripped wire then taped and yes they get messy and go green after a while 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 If mine loses colour I will just bin them and get another set . My 15 plate doesn't come with drl so thought this would be good for the night roads aswell . I take it one should turn on when you indicate to go that way . Now the legality of.it , are these ok for uk mot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 The color I meant was the wires after a while of being taped they go mouldy. Mines passed mot every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 Glad to hear it's ok for not. I thought the snap scotch locks from screw fix would have been ok . What fuse should I use for acc so it goes off straight away with ignition. 85 or 86? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennvoqation Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, g1zm0 said: If mine loses colour I will just bin them and get another set . My 15 plate doesn't come with drl so thought this would be good for the night roads aswell . I take it one should turn on when you indicate to go that way . Now the legality of.it , are these ok for uk mot Mine didn't come with DRL either so I got set and swapped out the headlights for OEM setI got from one of the guys here, just a matter of using Forscan to tell the system you're using LEDs. I've also looked into getting Mustang style lights because I hate the way the indicators are hidden when the lights are on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F0CUE Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, g1zm0 said: Glad to hear it's ok for not. I thought the snap scotch locks from screw fix would have been ok . What fuse should I use for acc so it goes off straight away with ignition. 85 or 86? . Not inside but R16 in the relay box. TBH the relay is designed for a delayed turn off which is handy like guide me home lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Ennvoqation said: Mine didn't come with DRL either so I got set and swapped out the headlights for OEM setI got from one of the guys here, just a matter of using Forscan to tell the system you're using LEDs. I've also looked into getting Mustang style lights because I hate the way the indicators are hidden when the lights are on. I was going to go that route , but got told that the car needs some harness for drl to work on my zetec . Dont know if this was true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennvoqation Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, g1zm0 said: I was going to go that route , but got told that the car needs some harness for drl to work on my zetec . Dont know if this was true Mine was straight drop in, 2015 Titanium spec Focus. All I had to do was was tell the car it had DRL lights through Forscan. They still worked without that but wouldn't hit full power until you configured the car. Took all of about 40 min to swap over. Tail lights are easier, they're just a straight swap from halogen to LED. Downside of the DRL headlights they're a lot more expensive to buy new and harder to find second hand, at least in good condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g1zm0 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 I dont know If my car has the connector on the block for the drl. Can see option on forscan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I don't think you will have the wiring for DRLs in the plug as they didn't come as standard. You might get lucky though and find they are in the plug and you just have to find the pins you need to power an aftermarket set. In some areas Ford put all the wiring in but don't connect it up, like the Mk5 Mondeo has the wiring for the reverse camera regardless of spec, but the mk3.5 Focus doesn't have the wiring unless you spec rear sensors. I'm pretty sure you can get a DRL wiring kit though, one that takes a switched live feed to power them and then a feed from the headlight to dim them. I'm sure I've seen that kit somewhere, and if I haven't then I'm going to design one and patent it [emoji1787][emoji1787]Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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