focus 1.0 ecoboost

[madmackie]

hi all hoping someone could give me a little advice my son has a 1.0 ecoboost 2014 when the car has stood for a few hours when its started the oil light stays on for as much as 15 seconds then its fine all day it only happens after is stood. If stood for 4-5 hours its about 7 seconds before it goes out, no real rattles or loss of power no light on while driving. It had oil and filter change 4 months ago a full engine flush 18 months ago, I have changed to oil light switch I'm not a mechanic but I'm handy .I've had a diagnostic done with no faults stored.

Im now at a bit of a loss my next thought is possibly another flush oil and filter or its the oil pump which i dont fancy doing on my back has anyone got any ideas or have heard of this before thanks in advance pete

[Stoney871]

I'd be more concerned if the light stayed on permanently.
Have you checked the oil levels at cold and hot condition?

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[madmackie]

thx stoney yes the oil is full only checked it when its warm to be honest its really strange

[TomsFocus]

Engine flush should be avoided on the 1.0 EcoBoost as it can degrade the wetbelt. 

Was the problem present before the engine flush?

[madmackie]

hi tom no it wasnt but it was probably nearer 2 years ago when it was flushed 

[pcaouolte]

My moneys on the oil pump inlet mesh being clogged with bits of timing belt due to the flush and/or using the wrong oil. ☹️

[madmackie]

hi paul the correct oil has always been used the flush was actually recommended by the garage who service it at the time surely it would have shown before now ? is there anyway of cleaning this without a flush or removing thx

[JW1982]

Performing an engine flush on a 1.0 ECOboost is a very bad idea and should be avoided at all costs.

Most engine flush products affect the material of the wetbelts of the 1.0 ECOboost. The rubber material of the wetbelts will simply disintegrate slowly and clogg the oil pump and small oil passages inside the engine block. Performing an engine flush usually results in either replacing the wetbelts or engine damage.

The 1.0 ECOboost has a variable ratio oil pump that is controlled by oil pressure and a solenoid. If the solenoid becomes clogged the variable part of the oil pump will no longer work.

 

Personally I would start by inspecting the oil pump solenoid and oil pump strainer for any dirt/particles of the wetbelts. 

 

[isetta]

I always find searching for previous posts on this website very difficult. It has been written about before - the clogging on the oil pickup strainer by small granules of rubber from the wetbelt. There have been pictures posted of the blocked strainer and the rubber particles blocking it. I don't have any experience of this type of engine, only what I ahve read on this site. Presumably it's easy to check the strainer when the sump is removed. But I have no idea how easy it is to remove sump eg. what might be in the way, eg exhaust.

 

[madmackie]

looks like i will have to book it in to be investigated my first thoughts where the pump or switch thx all but if anyone has any other input i will gladly take it or can recommend a garage locally to me in wigan lancashire thx

[Tim ecoboost]

On 11/29/2020 at 4:43 PM, madmackie said:

hi all hoping someone could give me a little advice my son has a 1.0 ecoboost 2014 when the car has stood for a few hours when its started the oil light stays on for as much as 15 seconds then its fine all day it only happens after is stood. If stood for 4-5 hours its about 7 seconds before it goes out, no real rattles or loss of power no light on while driving. It had oil and filter change 4 months ago a full engine flush 18 months ago, I have changed to oil light switch I'm not a mechanic but I'm handy .I've had a diagnostic done with no faults stored.

Im now at a bit of a loss my next thought is possibly another flush oil and filter or its the oil pump which i dont fancy doing on my back has anyone got any ideas or have heard of this before thanks in advance pete

Hi I have had similar problems with my 2014 eco boost. It was the fuel pump that went. Also, make sure the timing belt is done in good time. Costs a bomb but what is saved on fuel goes on water pumps, fuel pumps etc!

[MaverickKL]

Hello my daughter has a 2016 Focus, 60,000 miles she has had it 3 years and serviced by a non Ford dealer on a service package. The car oil pressure light flickered on and off and took it to to garage for investigation. It was still running okay at this point. They removed oil sump and noticed fragments time-belt in oil pickup. Despite 150,000 miles or 120 months they are saying, either spend £1000 replacing the timing belt and take the risk or £7000 for a new engine. The garage we bought if from (Evan Halshaw) will only give us £1000 trade in of £200 for scrap. We have contacted Ford re goodwill I noticed a few similar posts. Any advice on bets thing to do, have thought of just taking it to a engine reconditioner but any recommended or what. Appreciate your views. 

[unofix]

This is not the answer you want to hear but your engine is dead.

Once it has had oil pressure problems, even just for a minute or two the engine is scrap. At 60,000 miles it may be considered an early failure but then again it has not been getting looked after by a Ford service centre.

You will be throwing money away trying to fix the engine it is very sadly a fact that the Ecoboom is very well noted for this kind of failure. It is generally accepted now the that the wet timing belt needs replaced before 10 years of age and before 100,000 miles. Your failure may have been caused by the use of incorrect oil at some previous service or some well meaning garage may have used an oil flush when doing the service. You will get zero assistance from Ford as your car is now well out of warranty (they don't even want to help the owners of 2018 & 2019 models).

See if you can find an independent garage who will source and fit a secondhand engine and possibly do the whole job for £4000 and then sell the car quick.

[TomsFocus]

Check the non-Ford dealer service invoices for the wrong oil or engine flush having been used.  You may have some comeback through them if so...  At worst, you can at least stop them using wrong oil or engine flush in other peoples 1.0EB's from now on.

[Marlburian]

I bought a new Fiesta Ecoboost ten months ago, wanting a bit more oomph compared with the basic model. Having read so many threads here about the problems with the wet belt, I wish I hadn't. Curiously when I check the Web for reviews of the Ecoboost, all seem to think that now a couple of minor flaws have been sorted, it's a good engine that will last for ten years, with no references to the wet-belt issue.

I guess that many owners are lulled into a false feeling of security by the fact that services are needed only every two years, though the manual does recommend more frequent oil changes for low mileage and short journeys. 

Guess I'll be driving the car for a couple more years, then seeking to change it, especially if the delays in delivering new cars are eased.

[Eric Bloodaxe]

1 hour ago, Marlburian said:

I bought a new Fiesta Ecoboost ten months ago, wanting a bit more oomph compared with the basic model. Having read so many threads here about the problems with the wet belt, I wish I hadn't. 

Can't remember if you mentioned the exact version you have, Terence - the Trend was available with the 100ps (which has the wet belt) or the 125 MHEV (which doesn't).

I have been unable to find any justification for Ford extending the service interval on the wet belt engine to 2 years/18,000 miles and like many members I have ignored the 2 year service interval and had oil and filter changes every 12 months. 

[Dagenham Dave the Train]

I’ve just bought a 2014 Focus 1.0 Ecoboost. The car had full Main dealer history with receipts up to 84,000 miles when the engine failed due to the wet belt. Sold as a non runner to a Ford specialist mechanic who put a new engine in it. I’ve now bought it at 85,000 miles. The receipts show engine flush used in at least five services (nine stamps in book) so it seems some Ford dealers don’t know about engine flush degrading the wet belt 

[unofix]