HenryV Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Hi folks, I'm considering a new project and (if I proceed) will endeavour to keep this post updated As with my other projects, I don't take on these jobs to save money. I just like a challenge. Yesterday, my beloved 2005 MK6 failed her Lambda Fast Idle test I've done a limited amount of research today and here's my thoughts/observations: She's done 119 350 miles and hasn't had any emission issues before Seems to run & idle fine Still has original cat & lambda sensors As I understand it a lambda sensor is an oxygen sensor The reading on the emissions report is too high and thus out of range (I'll post the report on here soon along with last years pass report) This leads me to presume that the engine is running/reading lean There is no warning light illuminated on the dash I've scanned for any fault codes with OBD2. No codes If the infamous lambda sensor/s was faulty then surely there'd be a warning light/code? Spark plugs have done 14 000. (admittedly, I haven't inspected them yet) Air filter has done 45 000 miles (I'll check it) but the first did 74 000 and was fine. I doubt that'll be the cause Engine hasn't lost any oil and shows no signs of oil burn I haven't researched the MAF sensor yet So, my initial suspicion is on the cat/manifold assembly, which is sill the original one (119 000 miles & 16 years) If it is corroded/leaking, could this be allowing excessive air/oxygen into the system, resulting in a lean reading? Any informed comment/advice on here will be very welcome indeed 😉 Does anyone know if the manifold bolts/nuts are a nightmare on the Zetec, as they often are on other engines? Best regards, H.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbla Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Don't know about the bolts on the manifold but i do hope you proceed as i'm looking forward to see how you tackle this one. I read your older post about the abs and it is fantastic. The abs light on my Fiesta has come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 Wobbla, I replied to your message the other day. Please check your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 This is the 2021 lamda fail report; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 ...and last years pass report.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 I started my attempt at this job today but I now suspect that I'm misleading myself. I'm now thinking that the problem is an exhaust leak after both the manifold/cat & lambda sensors. I'll (as always) post my failings as well as my successes; I put the car on ramps... ...and removed the airbox... ...to give me a view of the manifold top heat shield... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 ...Air filter isn't too bad... ...Spark plugs next... ...nowt too bad with the plugs either... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 ...when I saw the condition of the heat shield bolts, I knew this was a gonna be trouble; ...they're supposed to be undone by an 8mm socket but the bolts are (of course with car manufacturers who seem to be allergic to stainless steel) seriously corroded and ceased. I called it a day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 ...and did some more research; I found an article on emission faults by an apparently well informed fella. Amongst his reckonings was this paragraph; 'An air leak after the lambda sensor, i.e. exhaust silencer/joint etc leak, will cause the O2 reading to be high and all the rest to be normal. If the air leak is before the lambda sensor, i.e. manifold/ down pipe, then a diluted exhaust gas will be monitored by the lambda. This will cause an inaccurate reading at the ECU, which will, in turn, cause extra fuel to be injected by the injection system, which will effect the CO, HC and lambda readings. The amount that these readings are out will obviously depend upon the quantity air being introduced into the exhaust. Often you will find that the CO and HC readings can remain normal due to the catalytic converter cleaning them up. This can be very difficult to diagnose, as above a pre-cat emission test pipe would be a great help but is not always available.' It seems to make sense to me because this year: My lambda reading was high My CO was zero (as it was last year) My HC reading was much lower this year than it was last year No warning light on the instrument cluster Could my exhaust be leaking after the lambda sensors? More O2 than last year (Oxygen/air) Less HC (fuel) No warning light on the dash I'm going to (gonna) check the post cat exhaust for leaks next. I'll keep you posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryV Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 I checked the exhaust and couldn't find any leaks. I plugged Forscan/ELM327 into the OBD2 socket and found nothing unusual. I wasn't about to start using guesswork and swapping parts, so I admitted defeat on this project and went to a garage recommended by my brother; The gent at the garage lived up to my brothers recommendation and soon identified the problem, It was a split crankcase breather hose (Ford part 1761516); After replacing the hose, he MOT'd the car and here's the emissions report; Regards, H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT70 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 That air filter is dirty, I'd replace it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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