Petrol pump fuel nozzle wont fit into hole any more. What's going on?

[F0CUE]

Are the petrol ones not green and the diesels ones black at your end? That's how I know the difference. If not then it would be easy to get mixed up. I hope you car will be ok with following the above advise. I would be worried myself good luck.

[Eric Bloodaxe]

2 hours ago, F0CUE said:

Are the petrol ones not green and the diesels ones black at your end? 

 

I've seen lately a couple of filling stations where pumps with black hoses have had a sticker applied to the pump and a label attached to the hose, to say they're petrol. I assumed they are ex-diesel pumps converted to petrol due to declining diesel sales. Presumably they'd changed the nozzles, but it got me wondering about residual diesel in the tanks.

Whatever, I stuck to the ones with green hoses.

(PS: On the long running auto-correct theme, just had to go back and retype "ones with" which had been changed to "obscenity"!)

 

 

 

[TomsFocus]

I've used BP for years.  All the hoses are black there.  And everything else is green for their branding!  Always have to triple check to make sure I've picked up the diesel pump!  

(EasyFuel is one of the few Ford items I miss on the Golf!)

[Eric Bloodaxe]

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

(EasyFuel is one of the few Ford items I miss on the Golf!)

Yes, from comments on here it seems to be a "Marmite" thing. I'm a fan myself (EasyFuel, not Marmite!).

[unofix]

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

(EasyFuel is one of the few Ford items I miss on the Golf!)

Not to worry, only 10 more years and the Ford patent will have expired and then all new petrol and diesel cars will be able to use it 😉

 

[Ross3452]

Just been to the petrol station now, it was a fairly long walk. This was a different petrol station than the one where I misfuelled. I just carried the empty petrol can in a shopping bag and walked into the store and said I would like to fill up a petrol can, is it okay for me to bring it in with me when I pay, or should I leave it outside? She said it was fine to bring it in with me.

So I double checked that I was using the right pump, I used Shell Fuelsave Unleaded. It's a small can and I only had one, so I was only able to fill it with 5 liters. Cost me £8. Felt very strange to use a petrol pump while on foot without any car. 😄

Got back home with it, poured it into the car, and it's not made a huge difference to the needle. Looks like I'll have to make several trips.

[TomsFocus]

The fuel tank capacity is around 55 litres if that helps at all.

[Ross3452]

5 hours ago, F0CUE said:

Are the petrol ones not green and the diesels ones black at your end? That's how I know the difference. If not then it would be easy to get mixed up. I hope you car will be ok with following the above advise. I would be worried myself good luck.

Thanks Ian. Yes, petrol is green and I think diesel is black. I could've swore that I used the green pump on the very left.

[Ross3452]

4 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

The fuel tank capacity is around 55 litres if that helps at all.

Good God, looks like I should buy a bigger can! Lol.

[StephenFord]

10 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

The fuel tank capacity is around 55 litres if that helps at all.

Yep, that's 11 trips on an empty tank 

[StephenFord]

1 minute ago, Ross3452 said:

Good God, looks like I should buy a bigger can! Lol.

I have a 10 liter jerry can, wouldn't recommend, it's so heavy when fill it's virtually unmanageable to get petrol into car!

[Jimpster]

47 minutes ago, Ross3452 said:

Just been to the petrol station now, it was a fairly long walk. This was a different petrol station than the one where I misfuelled. I just carried the empty petrol can in a shopping bag and walked into the store and said I would like to fill up a petrol can, is it okay for me to bring it in with me when I pay, or should I leave it outside? She said it was fine to bring it in with me.

So I double checked that I was using the right pump, I used Shell Fuelsave Unleaded. It's a small can and I only had one, so I was only able to fill it with 5 liters. Cost me £8. Felt very strange to use a petrol pump while on foot without any car. 😄

Got back home with it, poured it into the car, and it's not made a huge difference to the needle. Looks like I'll have to make several trips.

take it to the nearest and fill it with the right stuff.

[iantt]

2 hours ago, unofix said:

Not to worry, only 10 more years and the Ford patent will have expired and then all new petrol and diesel cars will be able to use it 😉

 

10 years time and there won't be new petrol and diesel cars🤣🤣🤣

[iantt]

3 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

I've used BP for years.  All the hoses are black there.  And everything else is green for their branding!  Always have to triple check to make sure I've picked up the diesel pump!  

(EasyFuel is one of the few Ford items I miss on the Golf!)

I miss it on my Hyundai. 🤣🤣

[Ross3452]

Thank God for that, the car seems almost 100% or just 100% back to normal now.

So today I walked to the petrol station again, I took the can with me and bought another can and filled them both up, 10 litres in total.

Got back, poured them into the petrol tank. Got the needle past the half way mark.

Really didn't want to keep walking to the petrol station and back, and just thought why not give the car a try and drive to the petrol station to fill it up to the brim, fingers crossed it'll be okay and I wont break down somewhere and have to call a tow truck.

Started the car and it struggled to start but did eventually start. When idling the revs would drop really low and the engine would stop. Started the car again, it started really quickly, like quicker than usual, but again revs would drop really low with the engine about to cut out, so I'd give it some gas, and there would be a long delay between me pressing the gas, and then the revs going up.

As soon as revs would go up I'd let off the gas but they would still continue to go up for a couple of seconds and would rev really high. The engine was struggling and there was quite a lot of white smoke coming through the exhaust.

I thought there's no way I feel confident with trying to drive the car like this, I almost gave up and thought I'll have to ring a mechanic or my breakdown service tomorrow.

But I thought, the first diesel and petrol mix is probably still in the fuel lines and engine, maybe if I keep giving it some gas whenever the revs get too low eventually the mix will clear, and the newer mix where the diesel is a lot more diluted with the petrol will come through and it will run better.

Well after probably a minute or less, the car started running almost 100% normally again, I could just let it idle and the engine wouldn't cut out.

Drove to the garage, would still lose a bit of power for one or two seconds after changing gear, but wasn't as bad as what it was, filled it with around another 15 litres. Got back in the car, needle was dead on the full tank mark, decided to take it on a long journey, drove it for around 40 mins. 

The car does seem to kind of feel like maybe it loses a bit more power than normal whenever taking my foot off the gas to slow down, but maybe that's just normal and the car has always been like that and it's just my imagination.

But yes, thankfully the car seems to be either 95% or 100% back to normal now, not really any loss of power at all after changing gear, feels like it's running smoothly, sounds like its running smoothly, and I don't think there is any white smoke. Not bad for a 19 year old car, I'll book a her a full service when booking my MOT soon.

Here's an interesting 5th Gear video where the guy puts diesel into a petrol car (about the same amount I accidentally put into mine), and petrol into a diesel car. They were very old cars and both ended up fine after him putting the correct fuel into them without siphoning off the incorrect fuel: 

 

 

 

[StephenFord]

2 minutes ago, Ross3452 said:

Here's an interesting 5th Gear video where the guy put diesel into a petrol car, and petrol into a diesel car. They were very old cars and both ended up fine after him putting the correct fuel into them without siphoning off the incorrect fuel: 

Yep, if only you'd received similar advice on here... oh, wait a minute! 

[Eric Bloodaxe]

1 hour ago, Ross3452 said:

They were very old cars and both ended up fine after him putting the correct fuel into them without siphoning off the incorrect fuel: 

Yes, you might have got away with it on an old school diesel car with mechanical injection. Some people used to add a small amount of petrol in winter as an anti-coagulant, though paraffin was more usual.