Lisafredford Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 Thanks Stephen. So 31mpg normal for mine. Maybe mines not much out then. I was looking at Peugeot 208 1.2 petrol because of very good fuel efficiency but people are saying Ford is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd457 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Ford and indie garage said it’s due for belt and water pump change. Need to get quotes. 3 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Ford said belt looked ok for now but advised £400 -£800 car is 10 years old now only 55,500 miles. I might be interested in doing that for you (the belt+pump replacement, not the seeking out of quotes 😛 ) if you'd be open to it and want it done soon. I'm sure we could probably agree on a price less than any garage will be wanting to charge. We'd obviously need to have to talk about a few things, like how far away exactly you're located (you could share privately in a PM). Would you be interested? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisafredford Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Morning thank you for offer. I’m in West Midlands. PM me if you’re local 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Lucky you Martin. Won’t get 50mpg out mine. I think the esso supreme is around 159 to 169 a litre in my town. I stopped using the cheap E10 last summer because it seemed like it was vanishing. Just curious if 1.2 petrol fiestas get high mpg. Daughter had a 1.2 Ford KA which was good on fuel and the aygo was very good. Ford thought their repairs would help but pcv made no difference. I still can't work out how you're getting £100 of fuel into a 42 litre tank. At £1.60 a litre that works out at 62 litres. Even the Focus tank is only 55 litres!! I think you're probably losing some out of the overflow which is throwing your readings off. Also, you can't compare totally different cars like that. The Aygo is a very light car with a Japanese engine - they're always better on fuel than Fords. The 1.2 PureTech in the 208 is a very modern engine, and again, better on fuel. The Ka 1.2 is a Fiat engine. The 1.25 in the Fiesta is an archaic Ford engine, that just got a few tweaks every few years to try and keep it under the latest emissions regs. They're generally reliable, but they're not particularly efficient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Just curious if 1.2 petrol fiestas get high mpg. Just to throw some actual figures in. I always monitor mpg using the "brim to brim" method. On that basis, the 1.25 Mk 7 Fiesta we had some years ago gave the following: Overall average over 3 years/18,000 miles: 43.46mpg Best tankful: 48.87 Worst tankful: 35.37 This was my wife's car so mostly local trips with the occasional longer run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 13 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Filled to brim, let it go half way filled again. £100. It took £100 to half fill your petrol tank on a Fiesta !!!!! So that's £200 for a full tank ? If we say that the tank is 10 gallon (think it is actually a little less) and you put 5 gallon in to refill it back to full the price of petrol in your area is £20 per gallon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, unofix said: It took £100 to half fill your petrol tank on a Fiesta !!!!! So that's £200 for a full tank ? I keep telling her that introducing 'money' into fuel consumption comparisons is a nonsense LOL Maybe it was £5/liter round her way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, unofix said: If we say that the tank is 10 gallon (think it is actually a little less) and you put 5 gallon in to refill it back to full the price of petrol in your area is £20 per gallon ? Its 42 litres Iirc or approx 9.25 gallons. As you say, must be pretty pricey petrol round that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, StephenFord said: introducing 'money' into fuel consumption comparisons is a nonsense Well, I'm getting a lot less miles to a £1 than I did when I started driving. It was 6s8d a gallon then so that rather proves the point!😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G H Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 20 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Thanks Stephen. So 31mpg normal for mine. Maybe mines not much out then. I was looking at Peugeot 208 1.2 petrol because of very good fuel efficiency but people are saying Ford is better Forget about any car with the Peugeot 1.2 engine, unless you want big repair bills! It has a wet timing belt, and they start to shred around 30,000 miles, clogging the oil pick up & often wrecking the engines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Alan G H said: Forget about any car with the Peugeot 1.2 engine, unless you want big repair bills! It has a wet timing belt, and they start to shred around 30,000 miles, clogging the oil pick up & often wrecking the engines. Good job Ford don't have anything like that! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 20 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Good job Ford don't have anything like that! At least the ecoboom normally last a bit longer than 30k!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, iantt said: At least the ecoboom normally last a bit longer than 30k!! I know, I've read about some on here that have lasted at least 40k! LOL 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisafredford Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Evening all, Tom, Alan, Stephen , Eric, unofix, Anon, Rd547 everyone. Alan says Peugeot belt destroys fast and Tom makes a questionable face about Ford ? Unsure with you guys with the sarcasm. You saying all Peugeot petrol engines say 13 plate upwards belts destroy faster than fords belts ? Are chain type petrol cars better will they last longer years or cover more miles before replacing? I like the size of the 208 and some of the looks but been told electrical problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, StephenFord said: I know, I've read about some on here that have lasted at least 40k! LOL I did say "a bit" 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisafredford Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 What’s an eco boom lol you guys lose me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Lisafredford said: What’s an eco boom lol you guys lose me It's Fords revolutionary 3 cylinder engine, plagued with many, many issues that often results in the engine disintegrating, so your term, 'eco boom' is quite good LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Lisafredford said: Evening all, Tom, Alan, Stephen , Eric, unofix, Anon, Rd547 everyone. Alan says Peugeot belt destroys fast and Tom makes a questionable face about Ford ? Unsure with you guys with the sarcasm. You saying all Peugeot petrol engines say 13 plate upwards belts destroy faster than fords belts ? Are chain type petrol cars better will they last longer years or cover more miles before replacing? I like the size of the 208 and some of the looks but been told electrical problems. Newer Ford's use the same belt-in-oil system as the Peugeot PureTech. They're both unreliable long term. Not sarcasm. Ford's engine is called EcoBoost, hence the nickname EcoBoom. This is really the wrong thread for your questions. Your engine still uses a conventional dry cambelt. It is reliable, but it's not very efficient. Newer engines are more efficient, better on fuel, but less reliable. You can't have it both ways, always a compromise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 41 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Newer engines are more efficient, better on fuel, but less reliable. You can't have it both ways, always a compromise. But at least there's some good news - cars don't crumble away from corrosion as fast as they used to. I remember wings on Mk 1 Escorts rusting through in 18 months.😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said: I remember wings on Mk 1 Escorts rusting through in 18 months Ford made big improvements on the Mk2 Escort, it took almost 30 months before the wings rusted 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G H Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 22 hours ago, Lisafredford said: Evening all, Tom, Alan, Stephen , Eric, unofix, Anon, Rd547 everyone. Alan says Peugeot belt destroys fast and Tom makes a questionable face about Ford ? Unsure with you guys with the sarcasm. You saying all Peugeot petrol engines say 13 plate upwards belts destroy faster than fords belts ? Are chain type petrol cars better will they last longer years or cover more miles before replacing? I like the size of the 208 and some of the looks but been told electrical problems. Do your own research on the Peugeot 1.2 Pure Tech engine. Try Googling Pure Tech engine failures, or have a look at the Peugeot forums. Suffice to say, I wouldn't consider a car with that engine! As to the Ford Ecoboost, I have no experience of this engine, but, from what I've read on this forum, it does seem to last better than the Peugeot. And, just in case you were wondering, my C Max has a Peugeot 1560 cc diesel engine, so I'm not anti Peugeot, just that particular Pure Tech engine! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 hours ago, Alan G H said: . Try Googling Pure Tech engine failures, When I started doing this, I only got as far as "Peugeot 1.2 Puretech" before my search engine completed the field with "engine problems". Never looked seriously at one of these, so didn't realise they were also wet belt and it appears that needs replacing at 60k miles or 5 years and is apparently not a cheap job (sounds familiar). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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