Newbie229 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I just got the spark plugs changed as part of the full service. Ok this won't be as expensive as I thought! Thanks again for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 44 minutes ago, Newbie229 said: Thank you for the reply. I'll buy everything you mentioned there. Is it worth replacing the ignition coils also, or is this not needed? Don’t also forget to ‘replace’ the car! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiexen Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 If anyone's interested in whats inside an Ecoboost 1lt: https://youtu.be/0yx1-50iqnA A 1.0L, turbocharged, direct injected 3 cylinder Ecoboost This 1000cc powerhouse puts down 123hp . This particular core engine is thought to have around 70-80k miles on it which is very premature for an engine failure on a modern car. I tear this engine all the way down to try to figure out what happened, and why it failed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinf64 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, Tiexen said: If anyone's interested in what inside an Ecoboost 1lt You beat me to it...saw this video a few days ago. Its interesting that the oil pump belt was damaged to the extent of losing teeth which could mean that all us with ecoboost engines using the timing chain could still be sitting on a potential time-bomb. Stick to at least yearly oil and filter changes with the correct spec oil...and hope for the best... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, martinf64 said: Its interesting that the oil pump belt was damaged to the extent of losing teeth which could mean that all us with ecoboost engines using the timing chain could still be sitting on a potential time-bomb. Not the first oil-pump belt I've heard of degrading unfortunately. However, there is physically less belt to degrade on the chain engine, meaning less chance of pump blockage. There should be warning signs of this happening, slow to clear or flickering oil pressure light. And if the oil pump belt does break on a chain engine, the engine itself may still be serviceable, as long as the engine is shut down immediately. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 12 hours ago, Tiexen said: If anyone's interested in whats inside an Ecoboost 1lt: https://youtu.be/0yx1-50iqnA A 1.0L, turbocharged, direct injected 3 cylinder Ecoboost This 1000cc powerhouse puts down 123hp . This particular core engine is thought to have around 70-80k miles on it which is very premature for an engine failure on a modern car. I tear this engine all the way down to try to figure out what happened, and why it failed. They really are a badly engineered engine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 12 hours ago, Tiexen said: If anyone's interested in whats inside an Ecoboost 1lt: https://youtu.be/0yx1-50iqnA A 1.0L, turbocharged, direct injected 3 cylinder Ecoboost This 1000cc powerhouse puts down 123hp . This particular core engine is thought to have around 70-80k miles on it which is very premature for an engine failure on a modern car. I tear this engine all the way down to try to figure out what happened, and why it failed. Want some sound advice? Get rid of it, & go and purchase a Toyota, Honda or anything Japanese! Problem solved! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Hackney said: Want some sound advice? Get rid of it, & go and purchase a Toyota, Honda or anything Japanese! Problem solved! Couldn't agree more. My Hyundai isn't going have a timing belt shred, or any belt. 🤣🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agraham Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I'm not sure, but the oil pump losing its belt teeth could be a secondary effect of the loss of lubrication. That engine he stripped was unusual in that it had a balance shaft, which according to the workshop manual that I have was only fitted to cars with a 6-speed automatic transmission. On these the oil belt has its own tensioner, which is not present on normal engines. When he took the front cover off the bits that fell out, and the subsequent large bits of metal he found elsewhere appear to be from this tensioner that seemed to have failed and broken up. In failing it might have jammed or partially jammed the oil pump belt causing the teeth to shear off. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim H Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 6/15/2023 at 8:28 PM, Tony Roman said: You should consider also replacing the water pump, oil pump wet belt, several gaskets. I think your mechanic should inform you. However you can buy OEM Ford parts from other sellers at much better prices. Here is an example TIMING BELT WITH WATER PUMP 1.0 EB ECOSPORT FOCUS _ 2210970 _ E3BJ-8B596-AA | MOTORCRAFT WATER PUMP TIMING KITS | Ford Original Parts . One more thing, it is a good idea to ask your mechanic first to inspect the both belts condition by removing the sump. This is a fairly simple procedure witch will take few hours and then to decide when to get the belts replaced. Sorry for my English! Obviously not native. I understand the water pump on the Ecoboost is driven by the auxiliary belt, not the timing belt so that does not need to be changed. The belt will need to be changed, but not the pump. In most cars (including Fieasta diesels) the pump is driven by the timing belt and is good practice to change it, some cars (especially VAG) were prone to water pump failures. I am not sure about the oil pump. The belt will certainly need changing, and pump may need to be removed to clean the oil strainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Roman Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 42 minutes ago, Jim H said: I understand the water pump on the Ecoboost is driven by the auxiliary belt, not the timing belt so that does not need to be changed. The belt will need to be changed, but not the pump. In most cars (including Fieasta diesels) the pump is driven by the timing belt and is good practice to change it, some cars (especially VAG) were prone to water pump failures. I am not sure about the oil pump. The belt will certainly need changing, and pump may need to be removed to clean the oil strainer. Yes, this is correct. Water pump is not driven by the timing belt and replacement is optional depending on the age of the car and mileage. However considering that most cars that really need timing belt replacement most probably will also need a new water pump. Another aspect is the pricing. Usually Ford water pump is much more expensive than if you buy a genuine Ford timing kit with the water pump included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontpannic Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 6/4/2023 at 11:28 PM, Eric Bloodaxe said: Yes, I'm sure that was the case when the 1.0 ecoboost was first launched (it's a good while ago now). It's very hard to find any proof now though, as if someone had gone back and destroyed the evidence of what was said then. Reminds me of Winston Smith in "1984" whose job at the Ministry of Truth was to go back and alter things to make sure the records tallied with what was being said now!😃 To be fair, information does get lost in the depths of time, I'm not sure there is any deliberate attempt to obfuscate the original information, just that the appearance of newer information means that's what will appear in searches. The fact that there is now a service interval for the belts means they realised they made a mistake, implemented a service schedule, and developed tools and training for their techs to replace a previously unreplaceable belt. I don't expect them to issue a press release saying "actually, it's a 10 year interval now", in the same way that I wouldn't expect you to claim you're the worlds best driver, get 3 points, and issue a public statement to let everyone know things have changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie229 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just thought I'd update everyone. I just got my Fiesta back today from the mechanic. He changed the wet belt, oil pump belt, oil pump and water pump. The coolant and engine oil were also replaced. The car has approx 72.000 miles and is a 2018 Ecoboost. So the mechanic said it was an absolute pig of a job and mentioned both the wet belt and the oil pump belt had a series of cracks and were on their way out. He also showed me the oil pump and it had a lot of debris accumulated in the gauze area and was starting to get blocked. He said it was good I had provided all the parts to be replaced as all of them were needed. Overall I'm glad I got this done. It wasn't cheap, but the belt wouldn't have lasted much longer. I change my oil every 6 months or 6,000 miles, whichever is sooner. However my wet belt still wasn't in good shape. The previous owners had used Ford's extended service schedule (oil change every 2 years :O), so maybe this contributed to the wet belt degredation. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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