Popular Post AaronF Posted September 1 Popular Post Share Posted September 1 Hi all, Got the wet belt changed a couple of weeks back on my 2012 1.0 Ecoboost Focus and thought I'd share some photos of the belt (and other pieces) that came out. Being a 2012, the belt was a year or so overdue given the 100k miles/10 year service interval but it took me a while to make the decision about whether the sell and move on or front the cost for replacement, and in the end, the replacement won. My car is in fantastic condition and has "only" done about 54,000 miles - so there was some economic sense as the sale value (sans belt change) wouldn't come close to getting me something of equivalent spec and condition. The belt that came out looks mostly perfect to be honest, still absolutely worth getting done as there are some signs of wear, but nowhere near as bad as some you see. From what I was told, they dropped the sump and cleared everything out and there was no sign of anything in the oil pick-up gauze. The car has been regularly serviced with either Ford or a local mechanic that is extremely familiar with Fords, so it's always had the appropriate Ecoboost oil etc. The water pump also got replace and again, looks perfect. Although this is not the original pump as I had it replaced under warranty about 6 or 7 years ago, so it's only around 25-30k miles old. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Although it's just a single example, it shows that it IS possible to run the 1st gen 1.0 EB and not have the cambelt dissolve into a mushy mess! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC333 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Well I'm perplexed to say the least, assuming the full history of this engine is known to rule out any possible previous replacement/oil pump maintenance. Having personally fitted and later exposed a 1.0 wet belt, this one looks better than mine after 10x more running. Even the crankshaft bolt looks as though it's not seen action. Most believe it's either a fundamental wet belt design problem or lack of/improper servicing that causes degradation of the belt and pump blockage but perhaps not. Are there possibly other confounding factors going on in examples like mine? I used a new Dayco belt and tensioner, oil to the correct grade and spec., no abuse, so why the difference? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 As above, I'd be surprised if that belt is genuinely 11 years old, especially with that low mileage. Have you owned the car from new? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronF Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 12 hours ago, TomsFocus said: As above, I'd be surprised if that belt is genuinely 11 years old, especially with that low mileage. Have you owned the car from new? I’m surprised too but it is! Haven’t owned it since new but it was only a couple of years old with about 20k on the clock, so I’ve had it most of its life. Previous owner hadn’t had anything done outside of the initial/yearly services (all done at Ford). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob68 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 9/1/2023 at 9:04 PM, AaronF said: Hi all, Got the wet belt changed a couple of weeks back on my 2012 1.0 Ecoboost Focus and thought I'd share some photos of the belt (and other pieces) that came out. Being a 2012, the belt was a year or so overdue given the 100k miles/10 year service interval but it took me a while to make the decision about whether the sell and move on or front the cost for replacement, and in the end, the replacement won. My car is in fantastic condition and has "only" done about 54,000 miles - so there was some economic sense as the sale value (sans belt change) wouldn't come close to getting me something of equivalent spec and condition. The belt that came out looks mostly perfect to be honest, still absolutely worth getting done as there are some signs of wear, but nowhere near as bad as some you see. From what I was told, they dropped the sump and cleared everything out and there was no sign of anything in the oil pick-up gauze. The car has been regularly serviced with either Ford or a local mechanic that is extremely familiar with Fords, so it's always had the appropriate Ecoboost oil etc. The water pump also got replace and again, looks perfect. Although this is not the original pump as I had it replaced under warranty about 6 or 7 years ago, so it's only around 25-30k miles old. Great result that! I'm wondering if you could share with us how much it cost to do the work done and all the bits that were replaced? It looks like there's a tensioner in there and something else too (the large part below the belt). I'm very concerned to have just discovered this servicing requirement and it sounds as if it costs £1000-1500 to get the work done. We've owned quite a few Fords over the years and they've been great, this has come as a real shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AaronF Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 On 9/3/2023 at 4:19 PM, bob68 said: Great result that! I'm wondering if you could share with us how much it cost to do the work done and all the bits that were replaced? It looks like there's a tensioner in there and something else too (the large part below the belt). I'm very concerned to have just discovered this servicing requirement and it sounds as if it costs £1000-1500 to get the work done. We've owned quite a few Fords over the years and they've been great, this has come as a real shock. I think it depends on what year your Ecoboost is, I believe the issue only applies to the earlier MK3's, but I could be wrong. Ended up costing me about £1300 for my local garage that this car has been going to for years to do it and included the following; Work (no line item cost given on the invoice for these) Cambelt kit including water pump replaced Aux belt replaced Coolant replaced All associated seals, bolts and gaskets replaced oil and filter replaced Parts Ecoboost oil Aux belt Crankshaft oil seal Red coolant Hex head bolt Timing belt and water pump kit Oil filter Sump plug Ford gasket Gasket (x2) Stud Nut Washer I believe the main labour was £745 and then the parts make up the rest. The timing belt and water pump kit from Ford was £225 by itself so that makes up a fair chunk of the parts cost. Hope this helps! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, AaronF said: I think it depends on what year your Ecoboost is, I believe the issue only applies to the earlier MK3's, but I could be wrong. Ended up costing me about £1300 for my local garage that this car has been going to for years to do it and included the following; Work (no line item cost given on the invoice for these) Cambelt kit including water pump replaced Aux belt replaced Coolant replaced All associated seals, bolts and gaskets replaced Oil and filter replaced Parts Ecoboost oil Aux belt Crankshaft oil seal Red coolant Hex head bolt Timing belt and water pump kit Oil filter Sump plug Ford gasket Gasket (x2) Stud Nut Washer I believe the main labour was £745 and then the parts make up the rest. The timing belt and water pump kit from Ford was £225 by itself so that makes up a fair chunk of the parts cost. Hope this helps! It affects ALL MK3/MK3.5s with the 1.0 EB engine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronF Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, FatHead1979 said: It affects ALL MK3/MK3.5s with the 1.0 EB engine. Oh right! I thought I read they changed it to be a chain at some point, or was that a different Ecoboost? (or am I making this up entirely haha). If it's still the wet belt, what the hell are Ford thinking?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, AaronF said: Oh right! I thought I read they changed it to be a chain at some point, or was that a different Ecoboost? (or am I making this up entirely haha). If it's still the wet belt, what the hell are Ford thinking?! On the Focus, they changed the main wet belt to a chain for the MK4 although it still has a small lower wet belt (I think it might drive the oil pump if I remember correctly). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, FatHead1979 said: On the Focus, they changed the main wet belt to a chain for the MK4 There are exceptions !! Like the Focus Mk4 diesel 2.0 still has the wet cambelt. Ask me how I know 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatHead1979 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, unofix said: There are exceptions !! Like the Focus Mk4 diesel 2.0 still has the wet cambelt. Ask me how I know 🤣 Indeed, the already infamous EcoBlue *****. Ford really are determined to lose the rest of their market share of vehicles with an internal combustion engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 hours ago, FatHead1979 said: Ford really are determined to lose the rest of their market share of vehicles with an internal combustion engine. Who needs to use heavy taxation and ULEZ zones when you can just make ICE engines so bad that EV looks like a sweet release! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upton12 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 9/1/2023 at 9:04 PM, AaronF said: Hi all, Got the wet belt changed a couple of weeks back on my 2012 1.0 Ecoboost Focus and thought I'd share some photos of the belt (and other pieces) that came out. Being a 2012, the belt was a year or so overdue given the 100k miles/10 year service interval but it took me a while to make the decision about whether the sell and move on or front the cost for replacement, and in the end, the replacement won. My car is in fantastic condition and has "only" done about 54,000 miles - so there was some economic sense as the sale value (sans belt change) wouldn't come close to getting me something of equivalent spec and condition. The belt that came out looks mostly perfect to be honest, still absolutely worth getting done as there are some signs of wear, but nowhere near as bad as some you see. From what I was told, they dropped the sump and cleared everything out and there was no sign of anything in the oil pick-up gauze. The car has been regularly serviced with either Ford or a local mechanic that is extremely familiar with Fords, so it's always had the appropriate Ecoboost oil etc. The water pump also got replace and again, looks perfect. Although this is not the original pump as I had it replaced under warranty about 6 or 7 years ago, so it's only around 25-30k miles old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upton12 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Hi, would please let me know what that cost, my Ford dealer tells me that I need the same job done, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago £1600 give or take £100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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