StephenFord Posted Wednesday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:18 PM Aired tonight, I watched it, so you didn't have to 😂 Based on 6 x 'rounds' which was 'best' was decided on who won the most rounds, if you don't want to know who won, look away now... It was a draw 3-3. Rounds were as follows: Round 1 – long journey Round 2 – acceleration Round 3 – cost of city driving (skewed with government fines) Round 4 – Performance Round 5 – Storage Round 6 – cost to buy Some rounds were obvious, the 'long journey' was a timed 'race' over distance of 100+ miles between EV and petrol, (they both started with 25% 'fuel'), obviously the petrol won this one as it refuels in 5 minutes, the EV doesn't. The acceleration was won by the EV. Cost of city driving was the EV. But, here's the thing. Much of this was city center congestion charges which obviously the EV doesn't currently pay. This round is totally skewed by government control. Think of it like this. What if petrol cars weren't charged money, but diesel cars were, How long would the demise of diesel be? It's a totally false and arbitrary benchmark. It's nothing but a government subsidy on EVs to dissuade the use of petrol/diesel. Performance was really close but the test driver gave it to the petrol car, because the engine noise added a factor that a silent EV couldn't compete with. Internal luggage storage went to the EV as having no transmission tunnel/gear mounting etc, the EV simply has more space as well as often having a small front boot with no engine! Cost to buy. Petrol won this one, though as time progresses, this will dissipate as it will be illegal to sell new petrol/diesel. No mention was made at all over the forced rationing of currently buying petrol/diesel cars due to government enforced fines on manufactures of £15,000/car if quotas of EV sales ratio to ICE aren't met. So there you have it. I learned absolutely nothing new whatsoever in this TV show, as I'm sure most of you wouldn't either...  5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:39 PM Just watched it. The term meh springs to mind. Who in there right mind starts a long journey at 1/4 tank. Whole show was a load of nonsense from both perspectives. Luckily I watched on catch-up and sped through it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted Wednesday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:40 PM 20 minutes ago, StephenFord said: I learned absolutely nothing new whatsoever in this TV show, as I'm sure most of you wouldn't either... Well that was very informative, thank you. Saves me wasting time watching yet more government sponsored clap trap. 🤣 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted Thursday at 08:44 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:44 AM 11 hours ago, iantt said: Luckily I watched on catch-up and sped through it. I recorded it and will probably do the same - if I bother at all in view of comments so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimpster Posted Thursday at 08:50 AM Share Posted Thursday at 08:50 AM costs tho are coming down, i keep seeing the advert for the EV Dacia from £14,999 so potentially sub 20,000 now they just need to get an acceptable distance out of them and were good to go. Motorists like mine ibigger better than yours, if we can get away from that mentality and all cars are built with longevity and ease of repair in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George58 Posted Thursday at 09:31 AM Share Posted Thursday at 09:31 AM This program was a load of crap they were not comparing like for like for instance luggage capacity 2 different makes and models of cars ridiculous  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted Thursday at 10:01 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:01 AM 25 minutes ago, George58 said: This program was a load of crap they were not comparing like for like for instance luggage capacity 2 different makes and models of cars ridiculous  I'm no fan of EVs, but even I can conceded that without all the running mechanical gear of petrol/diesel, in any equivalent sized car, EV will be able to carry more cr*p... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted Thursday at 10:17 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:17 AM And the round 4 performance test show ev handled better in dry and wet. Then Went on to award that test to petrol for the V8 sound the car made. Like all petrol cars make that sound?? 🤣  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted Thursday at 10:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:18 AM 15 minutes ago, StephenFord said: I'm no fan of EVs, but even I can conceded that without all the running mechanical gear of petrol/diesel, in any equivalent sized car, EV will be able to carry more cr*p... Wasn't even the same size car, Tesla was bigger any way. Complete nonsense program that didn't help anyone . Click bait program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frembrit Posted Thursday at 10:27 AM Share Posted Thursday at 10:27 AM I only came across the programme last night whilst channel flicking, I watched about 2 mins just after the storage round, I don't even know what the cars were ( EV was Model Y? ) and could tell by the way it was being presented that it wasn't going to be great (and in hindsight nothing I don't already know). I've already made my decision anyway and bought a Tesla Model S to replace my MK4.5 Mondeo 😉 (Original plan a few years ago was going to be a BMW 530d M sport Touring) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted Thursday at 10:35 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:35 AM 16 minutes ago, iantt said: And the round 4 performance test show ev handled better in dry and wet. Then Went on to award that test to petrol for the V8 sound the car made. Like all petrol cars make that sound?? 🤣  Quite happy to concede that too that EVs are super duper quick fast accelerating, great handling cars. As I keep saying, my beef isn't inherently with EVs, it's with government passing laws to say we're not allowed to buy anything else... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsk Posted Thursday at 04:25 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:25 PM EV not an option for me. Unable to home charge as no road or parking at house. Garage 75 yards from house with no electrity to it. I suppose I could ask the electric company to dig up the nearby road and lay a cable to the garage. Maybe the government might contribute to the cost of that as they want us all to go electric (Ha). Anyway by 2035 I will be smoke up the chimney so will keep driving petrol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted Thursday at 05:37 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:37 PM 1 hour ago, jsk said: ... Anyway by 2035 I will be smoke up the chimney so will keep driving petrol. Hope that chimney has a decent filter, you don't want to go contributing to greenhouse gases 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Bloodaxe Posted Thursday at 05:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:49 PM 10 minutes ago, StephenFord said: Hope that chimney has a decent filter, you don't want to go contributing to greenhouse gases 🤣 Should we open a thread on the most eco-friendly method of disposing of our mortal remains?😀 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenFord Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM Just now, Eric Bloodaxe said: Should we open a thread on the most eco-friendly method of disposing of our mortal remains?😀 I would suggest being buried inside an EV 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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