Focus Zetec S 180 V's Fiesta St 180

[WES180]

Hi all. Just wondering if the 2 cars have the same engine? I know the air filter box is different but is anything else? I thought they were the same engine but you see loads of mods listed for the Fiesta ST but not much for the Focus. Hopefully someone will be able to answer.:)

[WES180]

Anyone?

[WES180]

I thought some of our resident experts could've answered this one!

[WES180]

There must be a difference somewhere as looking at Bluefin remaps the Focus only increases to 200bhp and the Fiesta jumps up to 217bhp?

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Extensive research seems to suggest it's the same engine in both cars, however the Fiesta develops a little more base bhp / ps / kw which is reflected in the slightly higher Superchipped engine output

[WES180]

This is what im trying to get to the bottom of, to develop more power then something must be different but i cant find out what. I was hoping one of our resident Ford Technicians might have the answer.

Ive read about the Fiesta having an overboost for a limited number of seconds which gives in the region of 200bhp although again ive not found out if my car has that too.

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

185 ps / 182 bhp / 136kw = Fiesta

180 ps / 178 bhp / 132kw = Focus ( to 2010 )

185ps / 182 bhp / 136kw = Focus ( 2011 on )

Edited September 6, 2015 by MONDEO TXS 2.2

[WES180]

Apparently my 2012 is 182ps according to Etis which will equate to the 180bhp.

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Most , if not all , modern turbo'd cars have a time limited overboost function

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Fraud only seem to list 185 & 180 ps ecoboost engines

[WES180]

It says this on etis, not sure what the 160 is though.

Focus 2011-, 1.6L EcoBoost SCTi 160/182PS-Sigma

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Your cars engine should develop an extra 30nm on time limited overboost according to Frauds figures Wes

[WES180]

Interesting. I wonder if the remaps are just permanently engaging that feature then.

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

There must be a typo somewhere because the Fiesta ST is 185ps / 182bhp / 136kw

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

I very much doubt any remap will permanently engage overboost - it's time limited to avoid turbo / engine damage

[alexp999]

The fiesta ST already produces 200PS on overboost. With a map that typically ups to 200 Base and 215 on overboost.

The Focus 1.6 ups to around 200 Base on a map so I think it might just be semantics and who is including overboost in figures.

[WES180]

There must be a typo somewhere because the Fiesta ST is 185ps / 182bhp / 136kw

This is the Fiesta on etis, same information as mine?

Fiesta 2012-, 1.6L EcoBoost SCTi 160/182PS-Sigma

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

I think what Alex says explains the '' missing '' 15 / 17 ps Wes

[WES180]

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=9&fueltype=3&model=1&variant=2757

http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=9&fueltype=3&model=2&variant=2544

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Not sure what the 160 means - Fraud did make a 160ps ecoboost but it wasn't fitted to the Focus as far as I can tell

Your engine must be the 185ps / 182bhp / 136kw version ( I think ) :) Wes - identical to the Fiesta ST

[WES180]

I think what Alex says explains the '' missing '' 15 / 17 ps Wes

Im not sure it does mate as i cant see Superchips listing the results differently as it would be underselling the Focus remap.

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

I agree the figures shown are confusing at best as 182ps is 180 bhp & not 179bhp

[WES180]

The other thing that confuses me is why are there so many engine mods available for the Fiesta but not the Focus if they are the same engine?

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

Superchips didn't include overboost figures for my TXS remap either - so I'm sure you're right there

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

I think the answer is that the Fiesta ST modding scene is seen as more lucrative ? The ST '' brand '' being the attraction

Edited September 6, 2015 by MONDEO TXS 2.2