jodyjones1982 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Hi all Finally picked up my 12-plate Focus Titanium 1.6 diesel (59k) on Thursday last week, but have returned it to dealer tonight for "repair" and the dreaded "Engine Malfunction - service Now" message came up yesterday. Now the problem seems to be that when I hit 3000rpm in 3rd and 4th gears the EM message appears and it goes into "limp-home" mode. I called the AA out, but the error is resetting itself immediately, so no codes readable! After eventually replicating the problem the AA bloke finally came up with P228C - Low Fuel Pressure and P165C - Electronic Thermostat. The car was/is OK to drive below 3000rpm, but for a car I've just paid for its not acceptable. Has anyone else had this problem? I've read that it could be something to do with the glow plug relay, others say the turbo, I've also seen the DPF mentioned but can't see that myself (very limited knowledge here). I have every faith in the dealer repairing it, I'm just wondering if any of you guys have had similar experiences and what your outcomes were! Thanks Jody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveGSXR600K1 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Hi Jody, 99% certain that this is the exact same issue when I had a C-Max 1.6 TDCi, loss of power at 3000 rpm, limp mode, etc. This happened to me on two separate occasions, and both were fixed with a new fuel filter. Also, both occasions were in very low temperatures (near freezing), where the filter had built up a layer of wax which became more solid with the cold. This caused lower fuel flow, which then gives you the low pressure. No idea about the electronic thermostat, probably a separate issue or an old error code. Not the easiest filter to change, best left to a Ford dealership's mechanics. Thanks, Steve 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodyjones1982 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hi Steve Near freezing temperatures in my experiences too!! Sounds very similar, you've given a great explanation, I've read many posts struggling to explain the issue, thank you! It's back at the dealer now (Carshop Cardiff) who have booked it in with a Ford main dealer (Fordthorne Cardiff) for Tuesday, hopefully they'll given me an explanation instead of just handing the car back. I'm assuming your issues ceased after the filter was replaced? Many thanks Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 It is the fuel filter most of the time on your age of focus 1.6 tdci. Replacement intervals are 37.5k but quite often they block up before that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveGSXR600K1 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No problem Jody. Yes, replacing the filter sorted it out each time. As Ian said, the Ford dealer said that the filter should be changed every 37.5k miles, but they recommended every year. The cost was £100 to buy and install the fuel filter, but they recommended that I had a major Motorcraft 4+ service every year which includes a fuel filter change and only costs £195. http://www.busseys.co.uk/ford/servicing/motorcraft-4-years/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodyjones1982 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 On 2/21/2016 at 6:56 PM, iantt said: It is the fuel filter most of the time on your age of focus 1.6 tdci. Replacement intervals are 37.5k but quite often they block up before that. So that's why it's suggested to take it for a high-revs run every month is it, to give the filter a bit of a blast? Or is that solely for the DPF regeneration thing? On second thoughts, perhaps it's the same thing, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodyjones1982 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, SteveGSXR600K1 said: http://www.busseys.co.uk/ford/servicing/motorcraft-4-years/ Steve that servicing plan looks great, thank you, I'll be contacting my local Ford tomorrow 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveGSXR600K1 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/23/2016 at 0:24 AM, jodyjones1982 said: So that's why it's suggested to take it for a high-revs run every month is it, to give the filter a bit of a blast? Or is that solely for the DPF regeneration thing? On second thoughts, perhaps it's the same thing, lol High-rev runs won't do anything to the filter, it's as you said, to try and clear the DPF. It wouldn't necessarily do a regeneration as there's a few factors that need to be met to trigger it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodyjones1982 Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 On 2/20/2016 at 8:16 PM, SteveGSXR600K1 said: Hi Jody, 99% certain that this is the exact same issue when I had a C-Max 1.6 TDCi, loss of power at 3000 rpm, limp mode, etc. This happened to me on two separate occasions, and both were fixed with a new fuel filter. Also, both occasions were in very low temperatures (near freezing), where the filter had built up a layer of wax which became more solid with the cold. This caused lower fuel flow, which then gives you the low pressure. No idea about the electronic thermostat, probably a separate issue or an old error code. Not the easiest filter to change, best left to a Ford dealership's mechanics. Thanks, Steve Steve, Ian, you were spot on, Ford have today confirmed it is the fuel filter!! Fingers crossed it'll be back by the weekend for me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveGSXR600K1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Sweet! Just make sure you go for that full Motorcraft service every year to get the fuel filter replaced as part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addyad93 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hi I've got a titanium x 2l desiel and I've had the problem since last June and they put a new turbo in for me cos they think it's something to do with that but today after a month having it back the light come back nd so I'm a bit annoyed with it but don't know what else it can be tbh any idea please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 could be a different fault, needs the dtcs reading . what was original fault that needed turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addyad93 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I don't know ford decided to change the turbo cos they couldn't find the problem cos it kept going into limp mode nd stuff and they reckon it's the turbo so they payed for a new turbo and just come back on today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragos Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi, Did You Get Your 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Fixed In The End ???? If So What Was The Problem As I have The Same Issue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodallish Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm having the same issue myself on an mk3 Fcus Titanium X 2.0 TDCi. I had a guy read fault codes on a computer this morning but none came up so going to have to take it to a garage tomorrow to get a full check done. What requirements need to be met for the car to regen if it is the DPF? I have tried ragging it down the motorway to no avail. Hoping that it could just be a faulty sensor or something simple like the fuel filter and nothing major/expensive. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus62 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:14 PM, jodyjones1982 said: Hi all Finally picked up my 12-plate Focus Titanium 1.6 diesel (59k) on Thursday last week, but have returned it to dealer tonight for "repair" and the dreaded "Engine Malfunction - Service Now" message came up yesterday. Now the problem seems to be that when I hit 3000rpm in 3rd and 4th gears the EM message appears and it goes into "limp-home" mode. I called the AA out, but the error is resetting itself immediately, so no codes readable! After eventually replicating the problem the AA bloke finally came up with P228C - Low Fuel Pressure and P165C - Electronic Thermostat. The car was/is OK to drive below 3000rpm, but for a car I've just paid for its not acceptable. Has anyone else had this problem? I've read that it could be something to do with the glow plug relay, others say the turbo, I've also seen the DPF mentioned but can't see that myself (very limited knowledge here). I have every faith in the dealer repairing it, I'm just wondering if any of you guys have had similar experiences and what your outcomes were! Thanks Jody I've got the same problem with my car I've just brought ford focus 62 plate did the changing fit this problem at all chreers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil21185 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If you read a few posts further down they say that was the problem. I've just had this problem coming home tonight - P228C Low fuel pressure Coincided with a pretty cold day and me running the tank nearly dry this morning before I could get to a petrol station. Limped to garage who read it for me (grrr I have an ELM sat at home...) and said they'd cleared the code and to see how it went as I'd probably dragged some crap out the bottom of the tank. Also asked when last serviced and according to the book: never! Book was stamped at 6 miles when new, then owned by Europcar til 58k when Evans Halshaw had it and stamped the book. The mech and I looked at each other after reading this and both said at the same time "There's no way EH touched it!" So booked in for fuel filter on Thursday as I had oil and filter done a couple of weeks ago. Would have had the fuel filter done at the same time if I'd known... Car drove home perfectly after that though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I have a 62 plate focus estate I turned it off tonight and got some pre egnition I went in to the shop came a kout ten minutes later and car won't start engine malfunction light has come on any ideas car is stuck in a bad place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 What sort of bad place? It sounds like no one's going to steal it! If it's a dangerous place then call breakdown or get it towed out of harm's way. Which engine is it? Does it turn over or nothing at all? Do you know anyone with a fault code reader? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottaubs Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I’ve just had a new engine put in my focus edge 14 plate and I have engine malfunction service engine come up on my dash, then it goes into limp mode for a few seconds/minute, if I turn the engine off and start it back up the problem goes and the engine manigment light goes off, my mechanic says it’s to do with a loose/leaks pipe either on or to do with the turbo????? Any help would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah21 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Hey Scottaubs, I'm having the exact same problem at the moment, I've already spent £150 on a new engine fan which didn't solve the issue and the car is due back in the garage on Friday. Did you manage to resolve the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESHOSE Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 the same message came up on my 2013 focus and i had a full service done by in and out which cleared the messages off my dash and 2 months later the same messages have appeared on my dash i've talked to in and out and they want to charge me more money to check what the problem is with my car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I assume that "in and out" is some kind of garage ? Get yourself a laptop, download FORScan (it's free) and a new 'vLinker FS' connection lead. Then you can fully check the car yourself. download FORScan: https://forscan.org/download.html Buy vLinker FS lead: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003116796694.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrymcdonald Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I have a 13 plate focus 1.6tdci and that light has come on took it back to the place were a bought it and they regenerated the dpf said that was what was causing it and on way back home it came back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Henrymcdonald said: I have a 13 plate focus 1.6tdci and that light has come on took it back to the place were z bought and the regenerated the dpf said that was what was causing it and on way back home it came back on Take it back again and tell them they clearly haven't fixed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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