victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Hi folks i have a question with regards to the drum brakes on my fiesta 1.4 tdci 2002 i replaced the bearing on my nearside drum and though i had fitted the circlip correct the open clip end with the holes looked well into the recess in the drum but today i took the car for a drive and to my amazement the wheel flew past me a 30 mph and i reacted well lol. i got the wheel and noticed the drum hub still tight on the wheel then i looked and the hub nut was nice and tight and the bearing still on the Rear Stub Shaft then i felt sick how could the wheel come off the circlip. can someone explain that it's only the circlip that holds everything together on the wheel and if it's not fitted in the recess 100% well i cant compute i have worked on motorbike for years and rebuilt engines carbs and calipers this has tottaly zapped my brain please someone confirm my only explination on why my wheel came off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Tango Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Hi & welcome Post in the Fiesta section, and did the hub come off with the wheel? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 no the drum cover was still bolted on to the wheel at 85nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 bearing still on the Rear Stub Shaft and the hub nut still tight holding the bearing inplace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Hi i posted this question in the fiesta forum no replys kind of desperate to undersatnd what happened i am not going to start blaming anyone but myself here if the circlip is something i overlooked as being the most important part to hold things together in the drum/wheel but i cant take the car anywhere let alone a garage until i am sure the reason behind the wheel comming off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Yes, the circlip holds the bearing in... It needs to be properly seated in the groove. Was there a dash cam vid of the incident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 no but it's amazing how a near side wheel can fly past at 30mph on the drivers side i didnt think that was possible i wish i had a cam to film it LOL the bearing i replaced didnt need any hydrolic press it just went in snug but i did improvise with a pair of scissors to and a dremmel to make circlip pliers but obviously they were not strong enough. stupidly i though the 30mm hub nut keeps everything in place total face palm moment thanks for confirming this and dont hold back from ripping me lesson learned here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The fact the bearing went in without a press makes me worried from the start - what brand of bearing? Bearings come with different fitting tolerances and the one fitted in your brake drum should have been a tight fit. p.s I did have a giggle to myself 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 normally a tight fit and press required as stef pionts out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 thanks ok i got it on eBay but do dont know if the rules here state if i can share the link but here is the specs Description : Wheel Bearing Kit Unit Of Sale : Boxed Set F/R R Inner Diameter (mm): 29 Outer Diameter (mm): 53 Width (mm): 37 Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.25i No ABS 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.25i ABS (Front ASB) 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.4i, 1.4 TDCi No ABS 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.4i, 1.4 TDCi ABS (Front ASB) 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.6i, 1.6TDCi No ABS 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 1.6i, 1.6TDCi ABS (Front ASB) 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 2.0i ST No ABS 02-08 Rear Ford Fiesta Mk.6 2.0i ST ABS (Front ASB) 02-08 Rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 i did remove the drum and took the bearing kit to 2 garages and both told me they were fully booked i explained i had the drum here and just need it pressed out and in greedly they were not intrested leave it here and come back tommorow i said no and fitted it myself sorry about the faded copie paste dont know what happened there ....must have lost my bearing's LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Lol, ah that's a shame, would've been interesting to watch! How 'loose' was it? I've drifted (read: hammered) them in without a press before, albeit on Peugeots but drums are all pretty similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 intresting enough the seller on eBay has sold 452 of these bearing kits so far ok just pulled the bearing box out the bin and your going to laugh its a ford mondeo 98 kit lbk8121 dunno if it's compatible but i am raging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stef123 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 i thought you said ford mondeo lol mk1 focus bearing is the same as your Fiesta anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 yeah but i fitted it into my fiesta LOL and the advertisement on eBay was for a fiesta 1.4 tdci 2002-2008 when the wheel fell off this morning at 9 am i was 2 mins from home so got my tools and sorted it drove the car home and though what am i gonna do now and grabbed my haynes manual and went to my bed i though it was the best thing to do i woke at 12 o'clock this is a really bad day i just checked these mondeo bearings are not compatable with my fiesta i didnt check the box i feel like going to my bed again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 right im confused here haha, is it a mondeo bearing or as per the pictures a mk1 focus (fiesta mk6) bearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 yeah the box with a ford focus bearing my head is up my ar~e now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantt Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Think we start from the beginning, why did you replace the bearing, play or noise or both, how difficult was it to remove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 maybe see if you can pluck an SKF bearing out of there then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 the bearing was grinding eveytime i turned a corner gradualy getting worse and louder so i though i would do it quick had some free play as well. the focus bearing thats in there now will pop out with one finger but it's not loose in the drum i put some grease in there so it's easy to remove the old bearing was quite easy to remove but i did use the 30mm socked and hammered the races out and removed the circlip put the races back in and hammered out the full bearing. about 7 really good heavy blows with a hammer / socket got the bearing out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stef123 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 48 minutes ago, victor jones said: intresting enough the seller on ebay has sold 452 of these bearing kits so far ok just pulled the bearing box out the bin and your going to laugh its a ford mondeo 98 kit lbk8121 dunno if it's compatible but i am raging Has the drum ever been replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 done a search on google for bearing part number fwk2961 not one link mentions fiesta apart from a seller on eBay ok i am not going to start slagging people off here but you can imagine the damage to my back bumper and my wheel is buckled and scrap material. well i didn't read the box but my car is not a ford focus so kind of lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 no i bought the car about 7 months ago i would say everything is standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor jones Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 well measured the bearing that was in the drum that i smashed out and its 3.5mm the ford focus bearing is 3.7mm and the circlip is thicker than the original one i smashed out no wonder i could not get the circlip sat in it's recess correctly well that's me taught a lesson ford parts from now on or just scrap the car better than being dead. anybody selling a alloy mk6 wheel and a rear bumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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