Dave1703 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hi All, I have had my Mondeo 2.0TDCi Titanium, since March and I love it, but have only just noticed that the subwoofer in the boot which is part of the audio upgrade package only works with the rear Speakers on. If you fade the sound towards the front of the car the sub gradually stops working. If the sound is faded all the way to the front then the sub doesn't work at all! I'm guessing the sub is wired into the rear Speakers only, but that seems to be a very odd way to connect it, surely it should work all the time?? Has anyone else noticed this?. Any thoughts?? I've contacted Ford on Facebook but they say they can't tell me if this is how it should be or not! They said take it to my dealer but I don't want to waste my time if this is just how it is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Sounds right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1703 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 hours ago, alexp999 said: Sounds right to me. Thanks for the reply Alex. Still seems strange to not have the subwoofer working if only the front Speakers are on, guess I'll have to sit in the back if I want Bass :-) Might visit my local car audio dealer and see what they can come up with.... Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilipK Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Hi Dave, I have combi version with upgraded audio system and feel like there is something missing. It sounds to me like the subwoofer is missing. Also the adjustments of the sound is quite poor. I expected better sound quality /better basses/ when choosing for the best audio upgrade offered. Otherwise all perfect. Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1703 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 On 19/08/2016 at 11:12 AM, alexp999 said: Sounds right to me. Thanks for the reply Alex. Still seems strange to not have the subwoofer working if only the front Speakers are on, guess I'll have to sit in the back if I want Bass :-) Might visit my local car audio dealer and see what they can come up with.... Cheers! On 29/08/2016 at 8:54 PM, FilipK said: Hi Dave, I have combi version with upgraded audio system and feel like there is something missing. It sounds to me like the subwoofer is missing. Also the adjustments of the sound is quite poor. I expected better sound quality /better basses/ when choosing for the best audio upgrade offered. Otherwise all perfect. Cheers! Hi Filip, Thanks for the reply. I have taken my car to the local Car Audio specialist and they have confirmed that the subwoofer only works with the rear Speakers. So if you fade the sound all the way to the front of the car the subwoofer does nothing! Just the way it has been designed by Ford I guess but does nothing for the sound quality. I am considering an upgrade to the sound system. Had a demo of the Audison Bit10, Audison Voce component Speakers and a JL Amp..... stunning! Just got to find the money now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 This is absolutely normal for systems which don't have a subwoofer out from the HU (and most manufacturer systems don't; they only have the stuff that they use, rather than anything 'for expansion' however nice that might be). Essentially, you have the subwoofer in wired to a 'sum' of two of the normal speaker outs; it could be a 'sum' of all of the speaker outs, but usually it isn't, to reduce the complexity and amount of wiring. What you really want is a line level output from the HU, which can easily be a sum of all the channels, but you don't have that. Oh, and you don't have to sit in the back, just have to have the rear outputs turned up to a reasonable level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunii Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I have an aftermarket underseat subwoofer ( Alpine) wired to rear Speakers via a Rca converter & as far as i know this is how it works when using aftermarket sub & oe headunit but the sound is fantastic ( punchy under passenger seat ) now even better sound from newly fitted Fusion component Speakers kit built into stock housing. This is on 2010 mk2.5 focus Titanium . Yunii Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1703 Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 On 1 September 2016 at 5:01 PM, BOF said: This is absolutely normal for systems which don't have a subwoofer out from the HU (and most manufacturer systems don't; they only have the stuff that they use, rather than anything 'for expansion' however nice that might be). Essentially, you have the subwoofer in wired to a 'sum' of two of the normal speaker outs; it could be a 'sum' of all of the speaker outs, but usually it isn't, to reduce the complexity and amount of wiring. What you really want is a line level output from the HU, which can easily be a sum of all the channels, but you don't have that. Oh, and you don't have to sit in the back, just have to have the rear outputs turned up to a reasonable level. Ahhhh... Normal... Obviously I was hoping for better than normal, never mind, I have decided to go the upgrade route with an Audison Bit10 processor and Audison component Speakers for the front with a JL amp. Oh.... and the bit about sitting in the back to hear the bass was just a little joke! (Obviously a Very Little (wasted) joke! )). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Sorry, wasn't sure whether you were being serous (vaguely http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law and all that). But the serous point is that these how these things are supposed to work. Not ideal but that is how it is. And I failed to laugh at all, at first, but I have now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldtail77 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Here was me thinking that the best sound should be to balance the Speakers slightly to the right an rear wards. To help compensate for Speakers being further from the driver. Which then negates the isolating of the rear Speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 There is a DSP setting for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldtail77 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Dire Sound Projection, it's horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I've always used DSP occupancy set for the driver on my Fords, can't stand it set to default all, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldtail77 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Admittedly in the Mondeo it isn't too bad. My Focus Titanium Nav with the upratedSony 9 speaker Audio is so bad, I had to keep trying it to see if I was having a nightmare. Maybe the later Grinning Mk3.5 sounds better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzman600 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Well I'm surprised at that and also not. Not surprised because of penny pinching on wire and surprised because the norm is that rear Speakers are there as rear fill and in no way should a tap from them be used to provide signal for a subwoofer. If that car was mine I'd take it to a car hifi dealer to re wire it so the sub takes its signal from the front Speakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1703 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Update! Decided to go for a proper upgrade to the sound system courtesy of Audiofile Incar in Bishops Stortford. Audison K6 front component Speakers JL 700/5 Amplifier Audison Bit 10D processor JL Audio CP108 subwoofer Sounds incredible! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzman600 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Good choice and great that you like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltervp Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I rook my 2015 mondeo titanium hatch to the dealer who admitted it dodnt sound good. For a few hundred all the updates were instaloed for audio and navigation etc to no avail. Then the technician checked a similar vehicle and decided this is how it is.... certainly not premium sound. But yes definitely good enough and not worth $1k audio upgrade... still disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltervp Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 11/30/2016 at 12:31 AM, Dave1703 said: Update! Decided to go for a proper upgrade to the sound system courtesy of Audiofile Incar in Bishops Stortford. Audison K6 front component speakers JL 700/5 Amplifier Audison Bit 10D processor JL Audio CP108 subwoofer Sounds incredible! Roughly how much did it cost to upgrade all these components. I am happy with the Speakers, just the rear isn't getting any volume! So maybe dont need to upgrade Speakers, just the amplifier??? I am a pensioner and though I appreciate great sound, I do want a stereo that works on 4 Speakers at least!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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