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Hello all,

 

First post here. I recently bought a 2013 1.0l ecoboost fiesta that has full service history and one previous owner. 33k miles on the clock. 

I've noticed some rust and corrosion on some of the engine parts, specifically two metal connectors that seem to go from the coolant pipe to the engine and then also possibly to the radiator (?) Should i get these replaced? Would it be a fairly cheap part replacement? Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers.

Cameron.

 

 

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they seem to be connected to the turbo (the brown rust coloured thing). I have not had one of these cars myself. Not sure how the metal pipe fits into the turbo. looks like it might come as part of the turbo - not sure.  anyway what i do know is that these engines are famous for self destructing in the blink of an eye when they get a coolant leak so anything that makes it look like it could spring a leak (that rust on the pipe does look a bit more crusty than you think it should be after only 4 years) would cause panic in me. I don't know how thick the metal is on those pipes so don't know how much of the thickness has been eaten by rust so far 

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Looks like some sort of fluid has dropped onto the top pipe and run down, dripped onto the other one and collected on the connection to the flexi pipe. I'd get it looked at though, looks pretty bad. You don't want all that corrosion to get inside other parts.

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Just checked ours and it seems to be suffering too! It doesn't seem as bad (deep) as yours Cameron - yet:

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In light of the Ford Denmark page on the issue I have e-mailed Ford UK to see if they are aware and able to assist. I will let you know what they say and if you can keep me informed how you get with whatever course of action you take that'd be appreciated.

Very disappointing that should occur at less than 4 years old and 40k miles!

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I've been banging on about the 1.0 EcoBoost for ages now... It isn't fit for purpose.

I could be miles off the mark here, but isn't it odd that a system which has water in, is not made of rustproof materials? I mean, water is one of the necessary components for rust to occur...

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2 hours ago, MJNewton said:

Just checked ours and it seems to be suffering too! It doesn't seem as bad (deep) as yours Cameron - yet:

ecoboostturbopipes2.jpg

In light of the Ford Denmark page on the issue I have e-mailed Ford UK to see if they are aware and able to assist. I will let you know what they say and if you can keep me informed how you get with whatever course of action you take that'd be appreciated.

Very disappointing that should occur at less than 4 years old and 40k miles!

Will do Matthew and thanks everyone else for your advice! Calling my local ford dealer tomorrow to arrange service.

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it wouldn't seem quite so bad if you could just replace the metal pipe but it is presumably somehow pressed into the turbo in the factory and comes as one unit. I would be pretty annoyed if I had one of these

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I'm living in Denmark and can elaborate a bit on this.

 

It IS an issue, if it corrodes through, the turbo will die due to no cooling. You definitely want to get it fixed, however it's probably not going to be cheap. Ford only supplies the pipes as part of the turbo, meaning you'll need a new turbo.

 

Ford Denmark will replace it out of their pocket even after the warranty expires, assuming the car has been properly serviced. Whether this is also the case in the UK I can't say, but it's worth trying.

 

The problem occurs on both Fiesta and Focuses with the 1.0 ecoboost (but according to Ford Denmark, the 140hp version isn't affected - maybe it has different turbo pipes)

 

In Denmark it's now common practice for all Ford garages to check the pipes and apply an epoxy solution to the pipes, if they're not in too bad shape (which I'm afraid yours likely are)

 

Hope this has been of some help :-)

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does anyone know what this epoxy solution is. is it something we could buy and apply to the pipes. I don't have one of these cars but anyone who has one where the pipes are showing early signs of decay would be interested in taking preventative action (I assume). 

Even if Ford UK refuse to do anything to help on cars outside of warranty, it would be a helpful gesture if they advised what the stuff is they are using in Denmark.

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Well i'm resigned to the fact i'll need a new turbo, just hope Ford customer relations pay up. Would be very strange if they didn't consider Ford Denmark does over the same issue. Ludicrous such a vital part of the engine should be so corrosive within 4 years.

I'll also get them to replace the coolant hose with the metal insert, as it too is showing signs of corrosion. Not good!

 

 

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I will keep my fingers crossed for you, but be prepared to have to be aggressive with Ford.  Personal experience, and the reading of many others' experiences, suggests that Ford will be extremely difficult to deal with. You aren't the first person to have issues with the coolant system on a 1.0 EcoBoost and I consider it lucky that you spotted it before it killed your engine completely.

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Mine is the same engine as yours and the same year Cameron.   It has nearly the same mileage yet the pipes on my turbo are in pristine condition.   I would suggest that this means that the pipes to your turbo are faulty.

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So, I can't get the Ford looked at by an official dealer in london until the 29th! Madness. Confused as what to do here - slightly terrified the pipes could corrode through at any time so loathed to drive the car, but also can't let the battery go flat as i have to get it to the dealer on the 29th. How long can a fiesta be left without being driven before the battery dies? Last big trip was two weeks ago.

Ford customer relations have replied, simply saying the complaint has been passed onto a manager and they will get back to me.

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I personally wouldn't want to drive it given that coolant loss usually kills the 1.0 EcoBoost faster than you can stop the car and switch the engine off.  And now that Ford know your car's got this problem, if you drive it and it dies, suddenly their poor design is your fault...

Your choice of course though.

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That looks bad for Ecoboost and yet again another problem ford have to sort out.

I'm glad i didn't go for the Ecoboost now as im started to read a lot of faults popping up,if this was mine i would be scared to drive it

but would need to with no option as what i need mine for.

Good luck and give them a a good telling of.

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