2013 1.0l Ecoboost engine rust. Problem?

[Piston Head]

Oh yes, looks like my assumption was wrong then 

[Eric Bloodaxe]

1 hour ago, Piston Head said:

Oh yes, looks like my assumption was wrong then 

Yeah, I was hoping there might be some way to identify a gpf fitted car at a glance, for future reference.

Is the grey on the pipes a coating, or just, as It appears, some type of paint?. 

[Piston Head]

22 hours ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

Yeah, I was hoping there might be some way to identify a gpf fitted car at a glance, for future reference.

Is the grey on the pipes a coating, or just, as It appears, some type of paint?. 

I think its a coating of some sort rather than a paint

[V6 Lover]

The different heat shield arrangement I suspect is because the engine is now fitted with a particulate filter.

Lovely new looking engine there mate..

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[Jeipii]

Just throwing this idea here: the coolant pipes do not rust until they get dented from some small debris like a small stone. Then the shiny coating cannot protect the pipe anymore and the rusting starts from the dent and spreads from there. This is what I think happens. Maybe the new pipes with gray coating are more durable ? Also, in the mk8 engine the foil heat shield around turbo coolant hose is now on the top hose. In my fiesta it is in the hose that goes downwards from turbo to the electric coolant pump.

[Nismex]

I think I need to sort mine, there is a lot of rust/pitting on both the upper and lower pipe. I took it in under warranty and dealer said it's fine, but they could paint it for £80. In terms of cleaning it up I was wondering about doing some sandpaper cleaning, then applying some Bilt Hamber Deox-Gel to clean up the areas I can't reach, then a clean and finally applying some high temp paint. Anything to be wary of?

[sabotage3d]

Hi,

I just discovered this thread, while I was searching for engine rust. I gave a deposit for a Ford Focus MK3 ecoboost 2014 plate 48k miles and I noticed there was a rust on the turbo housing. I didn't know in advance what to look for. I am going to finalise the deal and check these turbo pipes and degas hose. Given the age of the car I expect to have some rust on these pipes it had only one previous owner driving it in London. Would you still recommend the car given all the problems? If there is even small amount of rust on these pipes should I walk away?

[Steveostit14]

Hi all, seen this thread back in 2017, on checking mine found small amount of rust, after cleaning and

prep with anti corrosion and painting with Halfords high temp paint, mine have been good ever since,

just repainted last year ,  so if you want to keep them in good condition, iwould recommend painting them,

It does work !!! 

 

[Dazza993]

So I was aware of possible rust issues on the turbo pipes and the 2014 1.0 eco boost we purchased a couple of months ago does have some rust spots on them

Looking for suitable heat proof paint - this seems okay from Halfords - comes in an aerosol but I'd apply with a small brush
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-and-body-repair/specialist-and-decorative-paints/simoniz-black-very-high-temperature-paint-500ml-443088.html

Other than rubbing down with sandpaper to clear the rust is any other prep needed before painting.
If there's other/better heat resistant paints - could someone point me in the direction of them.

Thanks in advance

[Steveostit14]

Hiya, i used a strip of emery cloth to take off any surface rust , treated with hammerite

kurust on rusted area, then after drying time , painted with Halfords high temp paint,

only used tiny amount , got enough paint to do every ecoboost in east mids , use smallest

brush you can find , and repaint every year if want to .!!!!!

[Matt Alsop]

I used the emery paper, Kurust and high temperature paint method about 3 years ago when I bought my car and found this post about the pipes rusting. It took a while and I had to bend the small paint brush to 90 degrees to get all the way around the pipes. After a year the paint had started to come off and I could once again see some minor surface rust just starting. I thinly coated the pipes in bearing grease instead with my fingers and although it doesn't look spectacular it seems to work better than the paint did. What surprised me is that it didn't just burn off except where I accidentally got a bit on the turbo housing itself. When I service the car each year I wipe off the grease and apply new which takes a few minutes. It's only a thin smear of grease.......I've not plastered it on.

[Steveostit14]

Hi matt , its a good idea about using bearing grease!! I always have a glace at mine everytime have

bonnet up to check fluids etc , no sign of rust returning as yet but there was only a very small amount

originally, will have a good look at mine very soon and repaint, now thread has brought this back to my 

attention !!     Cheers

[Bobr]

Did Ford change the makeup of the pipes in later models?   I have a 17 plate Fiesta 100 Ecoboost and the turbo pipes are a bright silver colour.

[Matt Alsop]

49 minutes ago, Bobr said:

Did Ford change the makeup of the pipes in later models?   I have a 17 plate Fiesta 100 Ecoboost and the turbo pipes are a bright silver colour.

I'm not sure Bob. I have a 17 plate Fiesta Ecoboost 140 and there was surface rust within a few months of me buying the car brand new. The pipes on mine were never bright silver. I would say they were sort of half way between silver and brass in colour.

[fleamoo]

6 hours ago, Matt Alsop said:

I used the emery paper, Kurust and high temperature paint method about 3 years ago when I bought my car and found this post about the pipes rusting. It took a while and I had to bend the small paint brush to 90 degrees to get all the way around the pipes. After a year the paint had started to come off and I could once again see some minor surface rust just starting. I thinly coated the pipes in bearing grease instead with my fingers and although it doesn't look spectacular it seems to work better than the paint did. What surprised me is that it didn't just burn off except where I accidentally got a bit on the turbo housing itself. When I service the car each year I wipe off the grease and apply new which takes a few minutes. It's only a thin smear of grease.......I've not plastered it on.

Hi Matt, that's exactly what I did. I didn't trust my my de- rusting and painting skills,  and was worried the corrosion might sneak back in under the paint. Easy to keep an eye on it this way, just like people used to do with brake pipes when the surface paint had flaked off. I think it doesn't burn off because the pipes are effectively water cooled.

[hamish_barb]

Hi all 

I’m looking to maybe get a 1.0 EcoBoost however this thread along with the fb group is driving me away (pun intended)

the seller has kindly sent me two photos of the turbo pipes, can someone please let me know what they think?

thanks 

[Matt Alsop]

Looks good to me. Mine were worse than that when the car was only six months old from brand new.

[Mavroz]

On 8/16/2020 at 2:58 PM, Bobr said:

Did Ford change the makeup of the pipes in later models?   I have a 17 plate Fiesta 100 Ecoboost and the turbo pipes are a bright silver colour.

More than likely.

My last car, 17 plate StLine 140 had shiny silver pipes still when I exchanged it for the fiesta I currently have.

Never had the rust issues so the pipes must have been upgraded on later models.

[Eric Bloodaxe]

7 hours ago, Mavroz said:

More than likely.

It does seem like it.  There's a pic of a 2019 model a page or so back in the thread which appears to have a grey coating on the pipes.

Not seen what the arrangement is yet on the revised (reversed head etc) version fitted from earlier this year.

[Bongo2296]

Just looked at my pipes and they're not pretty. Is this still savable with rust remedy and high temperature paint or is it too far gone?

[Bobr]

34 minutes ago, Bongo2296 said:

Just looked at my pipes and they're not pretty. Is this still savable with rust remedy and high temperature paint or is it too far gone?

Doesn't look too bad to me.   Clean up and some high temp paint should do the trick.

[Bobr]

Here's a photo of the pipes to my turbo.   17 plate.

[Jeipii]

My theory is that a stone hits the pipe and breaks the top layer exposing the iron and then it starts to rust.

Also the pipes colour can change s bit because of heat so not all pipes look the same colour. It's also possible that the changed the material but I seriously doubt that.

I used sand paper to clean my pipes and I painted then with heat resistant paint. Gonna do it again soon, but the pipes have been pretty good for two years now.

[Bobr]

1 hour ago, Jeipii said:

My theory is that a stone hits the pipe and breaks the top layer exposing the iron and then it starts to rust.

Also the pipes colour can change s bit because of heat so not all pipes look the same colour. It's also possible that the changed the material but I seriously doubt that.

I have had three ecoboost Fiestas and the pipes on my latest one are definitely a different material to the previous two.

[Mavroz]

5 hours ago, Bobr said:

I have had three ecoboost Fiestas and the pipes on my latest one are definitely a different material to the previous two.

I will go with that also. Read about this somewhere a long while ago and that seemed to confirm that the pipes to the turbo had definitely been upgraded on later models to a different alloy which didn't suffer the pitting and rusting.

I also believe initially they were swapping turbo units out of these cars that were still under warranty, out of warranty painting them with heat paint.

My old 17 plate Fiesta had pipes like yours, still in pristine, unpitted condition September 2019.

Pretty sure a thorough search of this site will bring up a loooooong topic confirming the above.