IllogicalCpt Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Hi everyone, Looking for a little help, I have switched from a Nissan Note to a 2014 Ford Focus and taken out my working kit and have attempted to install it into the Focus but I am hitting walls! I am using the nextbase hardwire kit and plugging it into fuse 85 but no power seems to be getting to the dashcam, I have tried it on a couple of other fuses but no joy, in the end I have bought a second hardwire kit and still no joy! I have plugged the camera directly into a power source and the camera works fine... Just not sure what else to try...any help is much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 What are you using as the ground point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalCpt Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 The metal bar just in front of the fuse box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp999 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just to check you've get engine/ignition on when testing? Fuse 85 is switched live. Not something odd like fuse tap round the wrong way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalCpt Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Aye, ignition on when testing, even started the car! No power... Anyone else fitted one of these have a better suggestion for an earthing point? Just so I can better rule it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just try running the earth to one of the bolts on the door hinge, just as a testing point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalCpt Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Will give it another go today and grab some pics... maybe i am missing something but it was easy as pie to install in the Note i had... dont understand the issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil21185 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The only other thing I can think of is if it's a battery monitoring kit you've got that's sensing your battery is below the threshold voltage. But thinking about it that shouldn't matter with the engine running... You've done everything right though so it'll be something odd causing the problem. Have you checked the fuse in your fuse tap? Simple I know, but... Unless there has been damage to the cable when removing or reinstalling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 15 hours ago, CHUDNET10 said: Anyone else fitted one of these have a better suggestion for an earthing point? For what it's worth I fitted mine in my Mk3 in exactly the same way as you, F85 and a bolt in the glovebox rail, and it works fine. The only difference was that I used the original cigar lighter plug/power supply lead in a wire-ended socket rather than the hardwiring kit. Even if you got the fuse tap the wrong way round it should still work, it's just that the cam supply would be passing through both fuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, mjt said: Even if you got the fuse tap the wrong way round it should still work, it's just that the cam supply would be passing through both fuses. Is that right or would the current from whatever is on F85 pop the small dash cam fuse as soon as the ignition is switched on, breaking the circuit to the larger one? Though that said, I seem to remember my hardwire kit came with the small fuse already in the right slot so I didn't have to touch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalCpt Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Yeah I thought I might have bust the one I had so I have tried a new kit and it came preconfigured with the right fuse in the right spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonro2009 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Has one of the fuses in the tap blown?have you got 2 fuses in the tap? Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 As above, check the 'main' fuse is still intact. Do you have a multimeter or test light at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 hours ago, TomsFocus said: would the current from whatever is on F85 pop the small dash cam fuse No, it doesn't work that way. It would just mean the cam supply fuse would be connected to the other side of (technically, in series with) the original F85 fuse so the cam's current would be added to the current through F85. Since the cam takes very little current it would be very unlikely to blow the original F85. There might be a very slight voltage drop across the original fuse but too small to cause the cam to stop operating. The original fuse should go in the bottom slot of the fuse tap and the (lower rated) cam fuse in the top, in line with the wire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, mjt said: No, it doesn't work that way. It would just mean the cam supply fuse would be connected to the other side of the original F85 fuse so the cam's current would be added to the current through F85. Since the cam takes very little current it would be very unlikely to blow the original F85. There might be a very slight voltage drop across the original fuse but too small to cause the cam to stop operating. If you put a 2a fuse directly in the 10a F85 slot, it would blow quickly. So why isn't it the same to put the 2a in the 'main' fuse slot of the piggyback holder? Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to get my head around it lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 That's why you need to put the existing (7.5Amp) fuse in the 'main' slot of the tap and the cam fuse in the top. Yes, if you put them the other way round the lower-rated fuse would blow but why would you? It's obvious from the construction of the tap that the cam fuse should go in the slot that's in line with the wire. Edit:- see amended drawing above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Ah good, at least I'm not completely losing it lol. It's obvious to you yes...but may not be to everyone. You'd think it's obvious which hole to put screenwash in or which way round brake pads go but some people still get it wrong. It would be a possibility if the fuse wasn't already fitted in the piggyback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllogicalCpt Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Success!! Started again, brand new fuses in the right holes on the tap and earthed on the pole behind the dash, comes on with the ignition and goes off when the car does... Plugged into fuse 85 if anyone is interested! Glad I have finally got there! Thanks for all the help everyone! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just to clarify, I've amended the drawing in my post above. Glad you got it sorted, Jonathan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil21185 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Phil21185 said: Have you checked the fuse in your fuse tap? Simple I know, but... Hehe told ya ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just bought a 19 plate focus and want to install my nextbase dashcam. Using the fuse box in passenger footwell what is the best fuse to use so the dashcam turns off when I lock the car? Have used the ignition fuse but that is a permanent live fuse so dashcam stays on all the time. The cigarette lighter fuses are in the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comares2001 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Fuse 3 micro2 piggyback required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Fuse 3 is the ‘Parking Assist Control Module’. Are you saying this one? Is it better to have it one a fuse that is permanently live or switches off when you lock the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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