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Just joined this club, so Hi! to everyone.

I bought a brand new Kuga ST Line in 2020 (Mk 2.5) with the 1.5l 150hp lump in it, I never went out specifically to buy a Kuga, but the price was something I could not refuse on a car with a list price of nearly €39k with all the options it had, and I paid €24k for it, and it also came with a Ford extended 5-year warranty.

Anyway, after having owned it now for three years I notice here and there about the problems on this engine, I haven’t had any trouble yet, but I have heard that Ford revised the block to cure the water leaking into cylinders 2&3, but does anyone know when they started fitting the updated block? Some say from March/April 2019, mine was manufactured in September 2019, so I am really hoping that I won’t suffer any problems.

Any idea’s?

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I heard it was with the facelift.. So 2018ish.. I've been working on the assumption my 68 plate was a newer block. 

 

Either way, only needs to last another 6 months till I get an S-Max instead! 

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On 5/29/2023 at 7:59 PM, Man of Kent said:

Just joined this club, so Hi! to everyone.

I bought a brand new Kuga ST Line in 2020 (Mk 2.5) with the 1.5l 150hp lump in it, I never went out specifically to buy a Kuga, but the price was something I could not refuse on a car with a list price of nearly €39k with all the options it had, and I paid €24k for it, and it also came with a Ford extended 5-year warranty.

Anyway, after having owned it now for three years I notice here and there about the problems on this engine, I haven’t had any trouble yet, but I have heard that Ford revised the block to cure the water leaking into cylinders 2&3, but does anyone know when they started fitting the updated block? Some say from March/April 2019, mine was manufactured in September 2019, so I am really hoping that I won’t suffer any problems.

Any idea’s?

Hi on some sites it was said December 2019 when the blocks were changed for the better ones. . So the New engine has been out 4 years or more. , however it looks like Ford are now going to use the 1.0ltr 3 cyl with 125 or 150 HP only in most marques.  My Kuga 1.5 180hp Reg March 2018 with only 31.000 mls on the Odimeter is at a local Fords main dealer garage with what was supposed to be a misfire, but a day later I was told is was 'terminal' and a new engine needed, This was 5 months after a main Ford Dealer full service. I am now having to wait roughly 4-6 weeks for a new Engine, but its a matter of liability.

Who allowed these engines to remain in use with a inherent inbuilt fault, however belatedly Ford has of course fitted a better more reliable engine. In some media Fords especially in America have replaced the broken engines for free and some have paid a small contribution.  I am waiting for Fords to contact the garage and say when the engine that was ordered will be available because i was told it was on back order? My car could be off the road for 4 to 6 weeks!

 

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So I've since found out it was late 2019 and I've got the old block... 150hp with 40k on it. 

I've actually decided to move away from ford. Salary sacrificing to lease an Enyaq. Shame but lost faith in the current run of petrol fords. 

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Sorry to learn that. I was Vauxhall for many years and the wife was Ford but somehow floated over to Ford with a Focus of which i had three and the Kuga was my fourth. Wife has had seven cars and the step daughter three and stepson two, so you can see we have had 16 Fords and i am still waiting for what Ford intend to do about my  2018 1.5 180 with 31.000mls only. Its said i need a new engine ( what the heck)  but water and oil levels ( half way between full and low) are fine as i have checked it, It had a full service in March 23 and only done about 1,200 miles. I only do about 4,000 a year. So it should not be a new engine, Unless a piston and its rings are defective it should not be the cause of low compression on one cylinder but possible broken valve spring or a slightly jammed open off its seat issue!

I do not intend to fork out about £8000 for a faulty designed engine, Who on earth said a Cam belt should be a wet one and supposed to last the life of the engine? I have seen on media a belt with no teeth and one with a reasonable low mileage with cracks in the belt.. and the cost to replace a belt is over£1.000.

If i do not get a 100% concession from Fords Watch this space. Ex.Mechanic, fully qualified apprenticed Technician of 24 years,

Fords have admitted a defect by going back to the NORMAL design engine with no SLOTS between the cylinder's in the block!!! I wonder how many engines sine 2019 have failed with the new design , i bet not many?

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On 9/2/2023 at 10:23 AM, Emeraldgreen652 said:

Sorry to learn that. I was Vauxhall for many years and the wife was Ford but somehow floated over to Ford with a Focus of which i had three and the Kuga was my fourth. Wife has had seven cars and the step daughter three and stepson two, so you can see we have had 16 Fords and i am still waiting for what Ford intend to do about my  2018 1.5 180 with 31.000mls only. Its said i need a new engine ( what the heck)  but water and oil levels ( half way between full and low) are fine as i have checked it, It had a full service in March 23 and only done about 1,200 miles. I only do about 4,000 a year. So it should not be a new engine, Unless a piston and its rings are defective it should not be the cause of low compression on one cylinder but possible broken valve spring or a slightly jammed open off its seat issue!

I do not intend to fork out about £8000 for a faulty designed engine, Who on earth said a Cam belt should be a wet one and supposed to last the life of the engine? I have seen on media a belt with no teeth and one with a reasonable low mileage with cracks in the belt.. and the cost to replace a belt is over£1.000.

If i do not get a 100% concession from Fords Watch this space. Ex.Mechanic, fully qualified apprenticed Technician of 24 years,

Fords have admitted a defect by going back to the NORMAL design engine with no SLOTS between the cylinder's in the block!!! I wonder how many engines sine 2019 have failed with the new design , i bet not many?

I have just received bad news Fords will cont contribute a Penny because i had a service done at Halfords and they use and engine flush that Fords frown upon and if any fault occurs that nullify any warranty and i was just 4 months late with a service . Cost to be £10.500 Car value £14.250 or zero with no engine.

 

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50 minutes ago, Emeraldgreen652 said:

Cost to be £10.500

Why ?

You can get a brand new genuine Ecoboost engine supplied and fitted by Pumaspeed for under £3500. I'm unsure of the exact engine you have without trawling back though all the posts so if yours is not the 1.0 then it will probably cost a little more but certainly nothing like £10500

 

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13 hours ago, unofix said:

I'm unsure of the exact engine you have without trawling back

Sounds like the 4 cyl 1.5 - don't think I've seen Pumaspeed offer that one so far, unfortunately.

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