I am planning to replace the discs on my X reg Mondeo, it is end of 1999 model year and has drums to rear.

I have found Brembo for £36/pair from Eurocarparts which seems quite reasonable. Two sizes are given, neither seem to match mine, is there any place to take measurement from that will give me correct disc size ?

What size do your discs measure?  That is the only reliable method for checking the size.

Some Ford calipers have the size cast into them, but I'm not sure whether that goes back as far as 1999.

Looks like the two options are 260mm or 278mm, depending on engine type.

Can't advise on the sizes but I'd look into Ferodo Premium discs instead, these have a special silver anti rust coating, the brake disc area wears off, but the outer edge and inner section at the hub stays silver, nothing worse than rusty discs.

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28 minutes ago, Ian Lanc said:

nothing worse than rusty discs.

apart from rusty 'nuts' 😉

1 hour ago, unofix said:

apart from rusty 'nuts' 😉

Or a rusty trombone😉

6 hours ago, Ian Lanc said:

Can't advise on the sizes but I'd look into Ferodo Premium discs instead, these have a special silver anti rust coating, the brake disc area wears off, but the outer edge and inner section at the hub stays silver, nothing worse than rusty discs.

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Ahh, that was another question. I have seen some coated and uncoated. I did wonder what the difference was ?

6 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

What size do your discs measure?  That is the only reliable method for checking the size.

Some Ford calipers have the size cast into them, but I'm not sure whether that goes back as far as 1999.

Looks like the two options are 260mm or 278mm, depending on engine type.

I measured 254mm, but I guess that may not be totally accurate and 260 is the one. I will have another look and see if there is anything on the calliper.

There is a part number on the disc, but that just comes up as a disc, no size. 🤔

Local Factor has DriveTec for £45/pair, and they usually quite good with returns, but unsure of quality ?

13 hours ago, Theshed said:

I measured 254mm, but I guess that may not be totally accurate and 260 is the one. I will have another look and see if there is anything on the calliper.

There is a part number on the disc, but that just comes up as a disc, no size. 🤔

Local Factor has DriveTec for £45/pair, and they usually quite good with returns, but unsure of quality ?

If you put any part number into AutoDoc, that often shows compatible parts with sizing.

Transits used to have 254mm discs.  I'm not sure whether the Mondeo ever did.  So it could be the wrong one anyway.

DriveTec is GSF's own brand.  They are coated, same as the Ferodo's suggested above, but I don't know what long term quality is like.

The coating looks nice initially but doesn't last forever so a marginal effect?

My cheapo discs have worn better than the OEM.

21 minutes ago, Shearers said:

The coating looks nice initially but doesn't last forever so a marginal effect?

Put Ferodo discs on our fiesta ten years ago, still nice & silver too but if you don't keep them clean they will obviously degrade, nothing worse than seeing rusty discs and the back drums going rusty really makes the car look awful, seen cars no older than a year, seeing the rust is so bad, I applied rust kill on our drums before they even started to rust, then two good coats of Humbrol Satin Black model paint, still look great 15 years on.

The coating on my Pagid discs lasted several years as well.  The other benefit of coated discs is that you can fit them straight away without having to fully degrease them first.  Always thought it was a daft idea oiling brake discs for storage.

I've seen Pagid, did wonder if they any good. Yea, why on earth do they do that to brake discs ?

I'm a big fan of Pagid.  Or was, admittedly haven't fitted any in the past 5 years so might be different now.

Brake discs are cast iron so they would rust in storage.  They do need some sort of coating.  But oil on brake parts doesn't seem like the best option.

Well. I went for Brembo Discs, thought they would be decent quality, supposed to be coated ?

Attached pic's show what I picked up ! Car jacked, secured and wheels off, luckily I hadn't started on the calliper.

I am going to return, but, if they offer decent discount can I rub these down and still use, or better going for full refund ?

Brembo aren't decent quality, at least not the 'aftermarket' ones.  

They'll fine to use though.  That rust will come off the first time you use the brakes.

😒 And here's me thinking they where one of the better ones !

I am currently trying to make a template of the new disc as I have fitted them back to back over the studs and it appears slightly bigger.

They may be 254mm after all ?

OEM Brembos fitted to high end cars from the factory were decent.  But the quality on the aftermarket ones from ECP was poor even 7/8 years ago.

In your case, it's possible that those were coated in oil, and a previous customer degreased them, then returned them after finding they didn't fit...

I don't know Mk1 Mondeo sizes off hand unfortunately.  Is there a number stamped into the pad carrier at all?  It's usually on the flat side.

A098 is stamped on the outer calliper face

Made in China, so I guess that an indication ...

10 minutes ago, Theshed said:

A098 is stamped on the outer calliper face

The same caliper is used on multiple models.  It's the carrier that changes.  Will be a simple '254' if they 254mm.

 

These are 278mm just for reference.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Theshed said:

Made in China, so I guess that an indication ...

Had good look at the carrier, couldn't see any other numbers, so bit the bullet and removed disc to compare.

Yep, it the same. YAY ! 😁

Final question, for now, will the new discs need a clean before fitting, given that they are supposed to be coated ?

Thanks

1 hour ago, Theshed said:

Had good look at the carrier, couldn't see any other numbers, so bit the bullet and removed disc to compare.

Yep, it the same. YAY ! 😁

Final question, for now, will the new discs need a clean before fitting, given that they are supposed to be coated ?

Thanks

quick blast with brake cleaner and wipe over

6 hours ago, Theshed said:

Had good look at the carrier, couldn't see any other numbers, so bit the bullet and removed disc to compare.

Yep, it the same. YAY ! 😁

Final question, for now, will the new discs need a clean before fitting, given that they are supposed to be coated ?

Thanks

They aren't coated.  Can see they're just bare metal.  They probably would have been oiled initially, and I think someone else degreased them and then returned them.  No harm in degreasing them yourself as well, just in case there's any oil residue left.

Bembo has several different aftermarket brake discs. 

The non coated are the cheapest. The standard coated discs are a bit more expensive and the high carbon coated discs are the most expensive.


I have been using the coated Brembo brake discs for Years on several vehicles. All without any problems. I recently installed a full set (front and rear) standard coated discs on my Focus MK3 1.6 ECOboost and a full set (front and rear) high carbon coated discs om my Kuga MK2.5 1.5 ECOboost.

I specifically payed attention regarding the country of origin and all of the Brembo discs I installed were manufactured in Italy.

Well, I did say final question, for now. But schoolboy error has arisen.

Where should the spring clip fit ? I never took much notice thinking it would be obvious on rebuild.

But it seems it would fit comfortably either way.