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#91 Pirategirl

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

I used to a lot of motorway driving, but have not done any since getting the car.....  I do a lot of short 'stop/start' journeys - I can see where you are going with this.. :unsure:

 

What is the EGR and is it expensive to clean out?



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:27 PM

i wouldnt be in the least bit suprised if its something 'simple' like the egr as suggested, or possibly a glow plug shorting the system out...too many garages go head first like the proverbial bull, straight to fault codes and throw new parts in because the computer says so. where a few quick and simple checks would save a lot of their time and your money.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

I used to a lot of motorway driving, but have not done any since getting the car.....  I do a lot of short 'stop/start' journeys - I can see where you are going with this.. :unsure:

 

What is the EGR and is it expensive to clean out?

EGR is not an expensive fix , but i'm just guessing at the moment , Diesels don't like short trips , they like high revs and love motorways :)

 

basically the clog up.

 

May not be the problem as you have had people look at it in some way or another , i'm just throwing a spanner in the works , if you have been doing any town driving.

 

Wife used to have an Escort Turbo diesel , and never went above 3500rpm , when i used to get in , it was always loads of smoke as i gave it a good thrash to clean it out. , no limp mode , but i have to clean the ERG as it started to struggle.



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:35 PM

Hmmmmm - would be great if it was something simple like that!

 

I shall make these suggestions when I speak to them.  It wouldn't suprise me if it was clogged up due to short, low rev journeys.



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:38 PM

giving garage as much info as possible is always a big help

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:46 PM

Yes Tony, I hope so - just hope they don't think I know what I am talking about :lol:

 

I remember that the exhaust had started to smoke BEFORE it went into limp mode....... if I had known I could of taken it for a good thrash up and down the M1.



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

secret is to give them the impression you do know what your talking about...keeps them on their toes :)

im always happy to spend a great deal of time making sure customers know what im doing and why, without making it into rocket science...diagnostics isnt always as simple as people believe, but it annoys the **** out of me when parts just get thrown at a problem and expect you to foot the bill when it doesnt work, this happens far more often than not....every piece of a very complicated system in any vehicle is testable, hit and hope is completely unecessary, but you need the right equipment and knowledge to do it, thats why diagnostics is a specialised field and totally different from the usual repairs maintenence side of the job.

educated guess...and is a guess, id put a bit of money on egr, glow plug or fuel pressure related problem

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

I am now beginning to undestand just how difficult diagnostics is, given the fact that I have now been to 3 garages and they have been unable to source the problem.  Unfortunately there is always the odd shark out there relying on customers who don't know their touchie from their elbow when it comes to cars :mellow:

 

I am deseprate to get it sorted out as I love my car.



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

Get the car on a nice straight car park somewhere and red line it in first, you'll be surprised as to how much soot and gak you'll see come out.
Used to drive transit connect vans for work and did this on a regular basis, I could leave a soot line at least a hundred metres long every time.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

hi just incase you have not sorted this i had exactly the same problem. Had the fault diagnosed as the module and it still kept happening. They had to change the glow plugs and the relay and the problem was solved £200 all in hope this info helps

 

view my old posts i talk about it on here



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

Thanks David, will do! :)



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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:31 AM

Get the car on a nice straight car park somewhere and red line it in first, you'll be surprised as to how much soot and gak you'll see come out.
Used to drive transit connect vans for work and did this on a regular basis, I could leave a soot line at least a hundred metres long every time.

 

I can imagine there would be loads coming out of mine, it wafts past the front of the car when I start it up!



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:25 PM

Previous fault code 001... going to get another diagnostic hopefully early this week!



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

Car finally sorted!!  Whoop!

 

You were all right in the end!  Fourth garage took it in today, gave me a courtesy car free of charge, went back to collect this afternoon - GLOW PLUGS!  Replaced all 4, £169.00 all in!  :D  :lol:  ;)

 

Drives like a brand new car!



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

unbelievable
probably one of the simplest parts of the system to test, yet no-one thought of it cos ecu insisted it was glow plug module.....
would have taken less than 30 mins to test the plugs, a glaringly obvious test to make when module is being flagged....yet weeks later.....unbelievable

glad you finally got there, try not to lose faith in the garage trade, its just a matter of finding the right people....

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