after nearly 2 years use im decided to changed my speakers  especially rear ones they quite crap like 10usd cheap speakers

also change tweeters position make big difference in space of sound

Speakers in doors and subwoofer are driven by amp under passenger seat 

front tweeters and center are powered from head unit maybe because size limitation for amplifier.

finally im make complete sound dampening and replace all speakers

 

 

 

replacing middle center for real B&O . 

after try several types this fits fine with sensitivity and size also cover square hole to make acoustic right

Im find out Front passenger speaker was switched polarity from factory WTF?!!!

Im replace them also and no more muffled sound on midrange frequencies..

but amp dont send to front full signal (seem dsp send only bass and mids el.crossover maybe)  ,due to split signal to main unit for dashboard 3 speakers

 

UPGRADING Subwoofer with Audison APS 8 D 4ohms 2 coil

also dampening inside of plastic shell

 

after that bass its more precise control and firm

mounting depth is max 90mm

 

ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION

 

in existing subwoofer i'm already try several bass speakers best play choice is audison around 130Eur

original factory speaker cost seems 10-20 eur

Pyle its much better piece for 60 eur

but sensitivity is too low due to larger coils

Stock amp is already small and powering just 4 doors speakers + sub.  6 chanels

Front 3 dashboard speakers running from head unit located behind the main display on pics

 

I've changed all door speakers to Focal, changed amplifier and everythings good. I bought B&O subwoofer enclosure and am changing the subwoofer so wanted to know if you used the Audison or Pyle, or which one? Are you going to do programming on Forscan to get rid of open circuit error and to stop the factory equaliser? I'm going to use resistors to stop the open circuit error but still don't know how to deal with factory eq and instead send line level out as in this thread for the F250 : http://www.2gfusions.net/showthread.php?tid=3704

front tweeters better position also new cables go to front amplifier located behind the main screen

 

11 hours ago, BustedCeramics said:

I've changed all door speakers to Focal, changed amplifier and everythings good. I bought B&O subwoofer enclosure and am changing the subwoofer so wanted to know if you used the Audison or Pyle, or which one? Are you going to do programming on Forscan to get rid of open circuit error and to stop the factory equaliser? I'm going to use resistors to stop the open circuit error but still don't know how to deal with factory eq and instead send line level out as in this thread for the F250 : http://www.2gfusions.net/showthread.php?tid=3704

Hi

is your fiesta with B&O sound?

as i mentioned in post im end up with Audison APS 8 D 4ohms 2 coil But if you have different amp its not limits except mounting depth is max 90mm or you can use 10mm 15mm spacer for stronger speaker

Thread you refer  is for Sony sound system 

I don't think B&O have any setting in forscan and programing B&O amp with DSP is not possible now for us..will be nice if front door speakers have from amp full spectrum sound ,then will be able go to 3way speakers modification like is in pics

3 hours ago, hampi said:

Hi

is your fiesta with B&O sound?

as i mentioned in post im end up with Audison APS 8 D 4ohms 2 coil But if you have different amp its not limits except mounting depth is max 90mm or you can use 10mm 15mm spacer for stronger speaker

Thread you refer  is for Sony sound system 

I don't think B&O have any setting in forscan and programing B&O amp with DSP is not possible now for us..will be nice if front door speakers have from amp full spectrum sound ,then will be able go to 3way speakers modification like is in pics

No, my car didn't have B&O. For the subwoofer I have a Rockford Fosgate PBR300x4, I lost the mono amplifier I had. I'm thinking about a Rockford P3SD4-8 but will have a look at the Audison. The link is about Sony but I've emailed Forscan about what to do for the Fiesta to be able to get the same line level output, if they tell me anything I'll tell you here.

audison is good they make pretty good job on OEM sound car easy upgrade kits like 

https://www.audison.eu/news/f-150/   but this is for sony and standart old one  

Ford start putting to new F150 model B&O play with similar amp but little bigger because bigger subwoofer unit 

as you can see on first pics my last post the blue socket is micro usb cable connecting DSP amp under passenger seat....so maybe if someone try connect will be work (maybe)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-FOCUS-FIESTA-B-O-PLAY-AMP-AMPLIFIER-MODULE-JX7T-18B849-AH-2017-2018-2019/382959789798?hash=item592a2ea6e6:g:VM0AAOSw~25c3~Mo

amp is not so expensive and doing 2x4Ohms sub its seems to me like easy way to try

 

Hi Hampi,

Love what you've done to your car! I bet it must sound amazing with the DSP.

I recently changed all speakers in a Mk8 FST (B&O Play) to the Focal Access, the sub to the same Audision one you recommended, and centre to Dayton Audio RS75-4. 

When the engine is off, it sound amassing compared to standard, and just how I want it. However, hen the engine is running the extra vibration really seems to dull the bass and ruin the sound other than at very loud volumes.

It may be the powerflex engine mount that causes NVH, (needed to stop wheel hope due to M235) or the ST's fake engine sound that is played via speakers (which I have just purchased a forscan cable to turn off)), or just lock of sound deadening. 

What parts of the sound dreading that you've put in would you say made the most difference?

With all you've done, does running the engine ruin your sound system too (at normal levels)?

BTW - I also had the LHS speaker phase/crossed wire problem from factory, only noticed after changing speaker (I didn't cut any wires)

Wow that looks like some upgrade! I admire your knowledge.

Must admit although I love my 2019 Fiesta to bits, I'm more than disappointed with the B&O sound system, and as for the subwoofer its sub standard 🙂 IMHO

23 minutes ago, Chainsawcharlie said:

Wow that looks like some upgrade! I admire your knowledge.

Must admit although I love my 2019 Fiesta to bits, I'm more than disappointed with the B&O sound system, and as for the subwoofer its sub standard 🙂 IMHO

Its a ford cut corners to keep prices competitive. Bet the B&O system is only £300 upgrade from standard.

3 hours ago, st line x 140 driver said:

Its a ford cut corners to keep prices competitive. Bet the B&O system is only £300 upgrade from standard.

I think you may be right mate.  I've had quite a lot of cars over the years all with pretty good music systems which were standard to the model I ordered.

You will never believe it, but best quality music I ever had from any system was on Vauxhall astra mk1

The Ford subwoofer I have designed to fit where spare wheel goes maybe useful as a headstone next time I see a dead squirrel in the road  🙂

1 hour ago, Chainsawcharlie said:

You will never believe it, but best quality music I ever had from any system was on Vauxhall astra mk1

I had one of those, and yes it was pretty good - Philips unit iirc. 

16 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

I had one of those, and yes it was pretty good - Philips unit iirc. 

Thats right Eric it was Phillips, it was a cracker, I could blast out my metal with no unwanted distortion

isn't that an ASBO!😎

More info on B&O play upgrade in case anyone is interested, after I changed just speakers. 

I used forscan for first time today, and found two settings to change the sound (on Mk8 FST anyway):

1 -  turned off Engine Sound Enhancement fake engine sound

2 - In ACM module, under EQ SPECIAL MODES, It changed from "2-Flat" to "1-No special mode". Seems to turn graphic equalisation off. This made the sound level increase immensely, you can actually feel the sub.

Needs more testing, it may ruin other music, I'm yet to decide.

3 - I couldn't get this  one to change, it's - Anti Noise Control - ESE ONLY" ; Noise cancellation (not as such but uses information about the running of the engine to counteract the noise) See https://www.f150foru...-357712/index2/

If anyone else tries this, please post your thoughts.

Hi how do you remove the window switch pack?

 

this is 1 stage I'm done long ago check post above...

a little late here, but can I even install the b&o amp under the seat with the fiesta mk8 version that didn't come with one? I'm curious as to where that amp is connected to, the wiring route from the output source to the amp.

@hampi Many thanks for this thread. I’d like to upgrade the B&O Play speakers in my Fiesta too. I find the mid-range in particular too shrill.
What isn't entirely clear to me yet: did you upgrade the B&O amplifier during stage 1?

On 9/17/2019 at 11:04 AM, hampi said:

replacing middle center for real B&O . 

after try several types this fits fine with sensitivity and size also cover square hole to make acoustic right

What did you use in the photo above to cover the hole near the mid-range driver? Insulation wool and a piece of cardboard? Or metal?