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Getting cheaper than list price when factory ordering?

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Sorry to keep on, but I know that the list price for my car is £15,590.

Hedgepig kindly told my he paid £13,000 (which is £2,000 off the list price his car would have been as his car is identical to mine minus the technology pack which is £600, making his list price £14,990).

I paid £13k for it from Shepshed Ford...

...It was a factory ordered one...

So based on this I am wondering how hedgepig (or anyone for that matter) managed to haggle almost £2,000 off the list price? (Only because I want to do the same thing! HaHa).

I intend to get the car (car = £15,590)

and haggle approximatly £2,000 off (car = £13,590),

then also put the money that I get for my current car (about £2,000) towards it (car = £11,590).

My dad will probably pay the rest. I'm also hoping that because i'm not ordering it for about 6 months the list price MAY (unlikely) have dropped a little?

What does everyone think of this plan, and what are the best ways to haggle with the dealers in order to get the best deal?

Thanks again guys,

p.s. shouts to Hedgepig and others for all the help they have already given.



The easiest way is to go to a few dealerships, be a little economical with the truth and play them off against each other. List prices arent written in stone anyway. They expect people to bargain some money off.

Ignore your local dealer, you can save much more money by going through a broker.

Have a look here and price the car up.

Dealdrivers New Car prices

and

Here For The option Prices

(No, I don't work for them, but I'll always pass on any good info I can)

The spec you want , with 12 months road fund licence and delivered to your door from a Ford Main dealer is £13,102. That's a £2400 saving on the price you quoted.

Ignore your local dealer, you can save much more money by going through a broker.

Have a look here and price the car up.

Dealdrivers New Car prices

and

Here For The option Prices

(No, I don't work for them, but I'll always pass on any good info I can)

The spec you want , with 12 months road fund licence and delivered to your door from a Ford Main dealer is £13,102. That's a £2400 saving on the price you quoted.

I'd be inclined to play one dealer off against another rather than go down the broker route.

If you are able to get the price you want from a local dealer then your after sales service (which I consider to be almost as important as a good price) will be very good as they will want to keep your future business.

The broker won't give a toss--once you've paid your money he's on the look out for his next deal.

Herein lies the difference--it all depends on what you want.

SY99 is quite correct in saying that dealers expect you to haggle and they not going to offer discounts if they think you'll buy one without........they'll just rub their hands together with glee...............

Whenever I've bought cars in the past (and I've had a few) I've always done my homework and checked out other people's prices before plumping for the dealer of my choice.

The only exception to this rule is Mini / BMW as they won't give you anything although I believe that now times they are a changing......................... B) :D

We got a quote for a factory ordered car from Dealdrivers and then went to our local dealer and asked what they could do.

They got to within £400 of Dealdrivers price - which we thought was worth the extra premium of buying from a local dealer rather than buying blind from a Ford Dealer via Dealdrivers - which incidentally would have meant a 600 mile round trip to collect the car ( as we were getting it on Ford OPtions we had to go to the dealer to sign paperwork). THat would have eaten into a fair chunk of the £400 - also our local dealer have thrown in the £80 number plate transfer for our private reg which Deladrivers dealer wasn't.

So we saved ourselves just over £2000 on list price on a factory order car from a local dealer. So we are really pleased.

Car is due early/mid April.

Incidentally if we had gone in to the local dealer a few days earlier ( before Feb price rise) they would have matched DEaldrivers to the penny ( or so they said).

I'd be inclined to play one dealer off against another rather than go down the broker route.

If you are able to get the price you want from a local dealer then your after sales service (which I consider to be almost as important as a good price) will be very good as they will want to keep your future business.

The broker won't give a toss--once you've paid your money he's on the look out for his next deal.

Herein lies the difference--it all depends on what you want.

SY99 is quite correct in saying that dealers expect you to haggle and they not going to offer discounts if they think you'll buy one without........they'll just rub their hands together with glee...............

Whenever I've bought cars in the past (and I've had a few) I've always done my homework and checked out other people's prices before plumping for the dealer of my choice.

The only exception to this rule is Mini / BMW as they won't give you anything although I believe that now times they are a changing......................... B) :D

You don't actually deal with the broker, everything is done via the main dealer. All the broker does is agree the price then puts you in touch with dealer. After I had a quote from Dealdrivers I spoke to my local dealer and they couldn't get anywhere near the price I bought for, I'm talking over £1000, which in anyones book is a big difference. I personally don't give a shiny one which dealer I buy from, all the cars are the same, all I'm bothered about is the wedge in my back sack.

I personally don't give a shiny one which dealer I buy from, all the cars are the same, all I'm bothered about is the wedge in my back sack.

Fair comment Keith and I agree as I always go with the best deal.

My point, however, kicks in after you've parted with your wedge. You are still their customer and you're entitled to good service, right?

Well no, not necessarily--after sales service can be like insurance--you don't know how good it is until you have to claim and by then..............well by then it's too late.

Now don't get me wrong here--there's no way I would pay £1000 over the odds--I'd just walk away if they didn't match the price. B) :)

I agree with KeithC. I now have no contact with dealdrivers, but am in touch with the Ford dealership. Regading after sales service, I am not sure what difference it makes. If you want the car sercviced, then you pay for it and any Ford dealer will do. If there is a problem then, its a waranty claim and again any Ford dealer will do. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

I happen to have a Ford service centre near me who I use for MOT and sometimes for my Galaxy when I can't fix it myself, so I think I will get good support anyway, but what support I need I am not too sure.

Keith are you using the same dealership as me and have you got your car yet?

I agree with KeithC. I now have no contact with dealdrivers, but am in touch with the Ford dealership. Regading after sales service, I am not sure what difference it makes. If you want the car sercviced, then you pay for it and any Ford dealer will do. If there is a problem then, its a waranty claim and again any Ford dealer will do. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

I happen to have a Ford service centre near me who I use for MOT and sometimes for my Galaxy when I can't fix it myself, so I think I will get good support anyway, but what support I need I am not too sure.

Keith are you using the same dealership as me and have you got your car yet?

Yep, you can service your car at any Ford dealer or any independent service centre as long as they used Ford original parts and procedures. I have a few dealers within 10 miles of me, so I'll be getting quotes on the service before I jump into it.

As for warranty work, again, any Ford dealer will do, you don't have to take it to the supplying dealer.

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OK so I dug up this topic as i'm getting closer to ordering.

As I said previously I'm factory ordering the car, now decided it must be from the dealership. I do go to uni in Nottingham and family live in Wolverhampton.. so straight away I can play them off. I also want the Pure Guard treatment, so i can use that as leverage or try to get it thrown in free!

the current plan of action is;

  • Play the dealers off against each other to get a couple of grand knocked off.
  • Use a private broker to get the cheepest quote and get within £500 of that.
  • Offer to pay in cash to get a little more knocked off the price.
  • I'm also going to do all this towars the end of the month as they will be more keen for a sale as they have demands to fill quota's don't they?

Does anyone have any other tips / sugestions as to how I should go about getting money off?

They all seem to be saying at the moment that because its a factory order they can't knock much off.. but that must be BS right?

There is an element of truth in what is said in that factory orders means limited discounts from dealers. Its like orderring a made to measure suit versus one of the peg.

Ford will make a large number of cars without having a customer. These will reamin in a compound waiting for someone to buy it. If the compound gets full then Ford will offer large discounts to shift them through the dealership and this is normally at the end of a quarter. i.e. NOW.

If you want factory order (12 week wait) then you are asking for a specific spec, and one not made as a part of a large batch. In these cases a broker is likely to offer the best value. But I am interested to hear of your experiences.

Don't leave it too late, time is running out.

On the car you specced, Dealdrivers will do that for £13,102, 12 months tax and delivered to your door.

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