Just returned from Ford they found out the cluster is faulty and air tem sensor anyways they quoted it for £580 to fix, which I will not pay I will and fix it my self just needs to no if this is the only think I need ? It says it has 45042 miles does that mean it will show me that miles ??? 

12 minutes ago, Patrico777 said:

just needs to no if this is the only think I need ? It says it has 45042 miles does that mean it will show me that miles

In most cases there is no diy way (even with Forscan) to reduce mileage on a cluster. Some companies claim to do it, but for rather a lot of money.

Also, on many cars, the PATS (immobiliser) data is stored (at least partly) in the cluster, and would need PATS re-programming, which Forscan can do (it claims), but is not easy.

For the Focus, this PATS problem came in on the mk2 (2005), not sure about the Fiesta.

I suggest investigating a repair to the cluster, may be about £100. That would be cheaper than going to Ford to re-programme PATS.

See:

 

17 minutes ago, Tdci-Peter said:

In most cases there is no diy way (even with Forscan) to reduce mileage on a cluster. Some companies claim to do it, but for rather a lot of money.

Also, on many cars, the PATS (immobiliser) data is stored (at least partly) in the cluster, and would need PATS re-programming, which Forscan can do (it claims), but is not easy.

For the Focus, this PATS problem came in on the mk2 (2005), not sure about the Fiesta.

I suggest investigating a repair to the cluster, may be about £100. That would be cheaper than going to Ford to re-programme PATS.

See:

 

Ah okay so if I change cluster It wld need to be repogrammed ?? That is good £100 happy with that

54 minutes ago, Patrico777 said:

Ah okay so if I change cluster It wld need to be repogrammed

Like I say, I am not 100% sure, it varies a bit from model to model.

But the Forscan site lists PATS procedures added for Fiesta 02 - 07, so that suggests it can not be done manually without a diagnostic system, and the Ford PATS2 system usually involves the cluster.

Here is one report: http://passionford.com/forum/ford-fiesta/427039-instrament-cluster-swap.html

A repair would retain your current mileage display. Worth a phone call or email at least, I would say.

I called them they. Not picking up thr phone so I send them email I will. Book my self and get it repaired with them if its only £100 will my amber engine light go off after ??? Because that what is causing it  to light failtu cluster

9 minutes ago, Patrico777 said:

will my amber engine light go off after ??? Because that what is causing it  to light failtu cluster

Hopefully it will. If it is the faulty cluster that is causing the warning light. Do you have any codes (DTCs) for it?

Sometimes the DTCs will have to be cleared after a repair. Though usually they will go after a certain number of start cycles or a period of battery disconnection, if the cause of the DTC had been fixed. When dealing with cluster faults, Forscan is the best tool to have, most generic OBD2 scanners will not read or clear cluster faults.

 

2 minutes ago, Tdci-Peter said:

Hopefully it will. If it is the faulty cluster that is causing the warning light. Do you have any codes (DTCs) for it?

Sometimes the DTCs will have to be cleared after a repair. Though usually they will go after a certain number of start cycles or a period of battery disconnection, if the cause of the DTC had been fixed. When dealing with cluster faults, Forscan is the best tool to have, most generic OBD2 scanners will not read or clear cluster faults.

 

Forscan does that clean codes ?and how muchnis it ?i have Obd reader it have read ambient air tem sensor p0070, so say i go and fix that to essex will I need to take my car to ford again to delete codes ?

Forscan is free, you just need to register on their forum.

You may also need to apply for an extended licence which is also free and lasts for 2 months.

All instructions for doing so are on their forum.

Sent from my SM-G930F

Ah okay not sure if to keep my car or sell it guys

20 minutes ago, Stoney871 said:

Forscan is free, you just need to register on their forum.

You may also need to apply for an extended licence which is also free and lasts for 2 months.

All instructions for doing so are on their forum.

Sent from my SM-G930F

Could ambient air temperature sensor turn on engine light ?

I believe the sensor is involved in the engine management system to maintain the correct fuelling mix in regards to air temp and density so probably yes.

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43 minutes ago, Patrico777 said:

Forscan does that clean codes ?and how muchnis it ?i

Forscan is a powerful Ford specific system, Cost £15.00 for the interface. Needs a computer of some sort. (COM port, USB, Bluetooth or WiFi interfaces available). You will find a lot about ELM327 & Forscan on this site, which together provide a very comprehensive diagnosis & maintenance tool. James (jeebowhite) has done a nice guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id

Forscan works best on a Windows laptop, with a USB ELM. The Tunnelrat one (below) has been reported to work well by several people. Forscan is also available for iOS & Android for some tablets & phones.

For a USB ELM327 adapter, see
http://www.spanglefish.com/TunnelratElectronics/index.asp?pageid

Wireless ELMs are also available (bluetooth & WiFi), but are often not as reliable as the wired ones. Also they are rare in the "modified" form which is needed to access the 2nd Ford bus system. This 2nd bus is the MS-CAN bus, and links all the car interior electronics like door modules, and the BCM (aka GEM). But a standard ELM will still work with all the Underbonnet Modules (PCM, ABS etc) and with the IC (Instrument Cluster).

For an bluetooth wireless ELM, which one user at least says works with Forscan, see the KW902: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-KW902-Bluetooth-Scaner-OBD-Link-OBD2-Diagnose-Interface-Tester-white-UK-/281631334205

The Forscan programme is free (in Windows format) and you can get it from:
http://forscan.org/download.html

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I am a bit concerned about the DTCs (P0070). Usually this indicates a fault in the temp. sensor or its wiring. And usually this sensor is connected to the pcm or bcm. Only if it is physically connected to the IC (Cluster) is this fault likely to be in the IC. We are relying on a Ford garage making a right diagnosis here, and that worries me. Quite a lot!

But you would lose nothing by getting Forscan (the £15 would be an investment, if you have a USB Laptop, bit more for a phone version). Forscan will tell you exactly which DTC is responsible for the warning light, and may pick up additional DTCs. All scanners should be able to clear the codes they see, but Forscan will clear all that can possibly be cleared.

 

Is Czech your preffered language, as a matter of interest. Your scanner seems to be in that mode!

Forscan is primarily a Russian organisation, though I expect it is a worldwide collaboration.

13 minutes ago, Tdci-Peter said:

Forscan is a powerful Ford specific system, Cost £15.00 for the interface. Needs a computer of some sort. (COM port, USB, Bluetooth or WiFi interfaces available). You will find a lot about ELM327 & Forscan on this site, which together provide a very comprehensive diagnosis & maintenance tool. James (jeebowhite) has done a nice guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id

Forscan works best on a Windows laptop, with a USB ELM. The Tunnelrat one (below) has been reported to work well by several people. Forscan is also available for iOS & Android for some tablets & phones.

For a USB ELM327 adapter, see
http://www.spanglefish.com/TunnelratElectronics/index.asp?pageid

Wireless ELMs are also available (bluetooth & WiFi), but are often not as reliable as the wired ones. Also they are rare in the "modified" form which is needed to access the 2nd Ford bus system. This 2nd bus is the MS-CAN bus, and links all the car interior electronics like door modules, and the BCM (aka GEM). But a standard ELM will still work with all the Underbonnet Modules (PCM, ABS etc) and with the IC (Instrument Cluster).

For an bluetooth wireless ELM, which one user at least says works with Forscan, see the KW902: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELM327-KW902-Bluetooth-Scaner-OBD-Link-OBD2-Diagnose-Interface-Tester-white-UK-/281631334205

The Forscan programme is free (in Windows format) and you can get it from:
http://forscan.org/download.html

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I am a bit concerned about the DTCs (P0070). Usually this indicates a fault in the temp. sensor or its wiring. And usually this sensor is connected to the pcm or bcm. Only if it is physically connected to the IC (Cluster) is this fault likely to be in the IC. We are relying on a Ford garage making a right diagnosis here, and that worries me. Quite a lot!

But you would lose nothing by getting Forscan (the £15 would be an investment, if you have a USB Laptop, bit more for a phone version). Forscan will tell you exactly which DTC is responsible for the warning light, and may pick up additional DTCs. All scanners should be able to clear the codes they see, but Forscan will clear all that can possibly be cleared.

 

Is Czech your preffered language, as a matter of interest. Your scanner seems to be in that mode!

Forscan is primarily a Russian organisation, though I expect it is a worldwide collaboration.

could you please explain in bit more detail ? About the code p0070 they said its outside temperature ? What does pcm bcm mean ?

Ok let me explain, I bought aftermarket radio pioneer sph da120 installed it worked then when pushed inside dashboard radio did not turn , then went to Halfords they measured the voltage in cables one cable had 12voltage other cable had 0 dead, they said its not good that why my radio did not work also strange think is I plug AUX cable in to play music from my iphone does not play clearly once I put iphone on charge start playing without problem, here is a picture of the cable that goes to radio I think there is some other problem not cluster something als might cause the problem or blown up the cluster not sure

52 minutes ago, Patrico777 said:

About the code p0070 they said its outside temperature ? What does pcm bcm mean ?

Yes, it is outside temperature. There should be a temperature sensor lurking in the front bumper somewhere. And most often P0070 is due to a fault in that sensor or its wiring.

pcm is the engine computer (or ECU). bcm is the Body Control Module, usually near the glovebox. Together with the IC, these are the biggest & most important electronic units in the car. The sensor will probably connect to one of these three. Without the Fiesta Mk6 wiring diagram, it is difficult to say which.

Forscan tells you which module the DTC is in, so that would be a big clue.

About the radio, first off is to check all fuses. If 12v should be present on a wire to the radio, but is missing, then a fuse is the first suspect. There are fuseboxes in the car (near glovebox), and more in the engine compartment. I will try to dig up a Mk6 fusebox diagram if I can.

11 minutes ago, Tdci-Peter said:

Yes, it is outside temperature. There should be a temperature sensor lurking in the front bumper somewhere. And most often P0070 is due to a fault in that sensor or its wiring.

pcm is the engine computer (or ECU). bcm is the Body Control Module, usually near the glovebox. Together with the IC, these are the biggest & most important electronic units in the car. The sensor will probably connect to one of these three. Without the Fiesta Mk6 wiring diagram, it is difficult to say which.

Forscan tells you which module the DTC is in, so that would be a big clue.

About the radio, first off is to check all fuses. If 12v should be present on a wire to the radio, but is missing, then a fuse is the first suspect. There are fuseboxes in the car (near glovebox), and more in the engine compartment. I will try to dig up a Mk6 fusebox diagram if I can.

 Ok yes changed the fuse was bad now cluster turns on straight away not delay, but engine light still on here are my pictures from ond reader I have and purchased premium version

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