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#16 michaeljohngoff

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

A friend was owed a favour from a garage and thus we we raided a ford mondeo that he was breaking, as such we got the parts free. As for my mechanic friend I built him a pc for racing simulators and so labour free. Clutch pedal seems fine. Can still be hard to select a gear though sometimes. I'll probably get the knack of it.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

sounds like your synchros are still a bit shot still though. The mondeo boxes (6 speed) are terrible til they warm up. I have a brand new box in my car & even that aint as good as a VW/skoda etc transmission. dont know what ford were thinking when they designed it.crazy. Even the head mechanic at Ford said "Theyre not smooth operating til they warn up". tut tut



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 04:59 PM

May I ask what synhcros are? Would it be worth swapping the box? (5 speed). The previous owner said its never liked going into first! 1st and 2nd are now the only troublesome gears I would say.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

yes it does sound like synchro issue,but the 5 speed is supposed to be a better design of transmission. your synchro's are what help select a gear(it uses friction to enable the gears to engage). if it IS synchro issue,you'd be better putting it into get repaired,but make sure that the specialist preloads them properly or you'll get the same issue all over again. I bought 2 used gearboxes that both had same synchro problem. its always 1st/2nd gear syncs that go 1st cos theyre most used gears etc.

 

Now if your car has been driven with a slightly dragging clutch,which i DO think is possible due to your clutch pedal issue(master cylinder),then it degrades the said synchros much faster as the clutch cant stop input shaft spinning completely,& gears are hashed instead of synchronising.Hows your reverse gear? sometimes a hard 1st / reverse gear symptom can be a sign of a DMF going,but not always. The only way to tell is by removing gearbox opening it,& stripping it down.(very time consuming & specialist job).

All depends how much time and money you wanna spend. cant remember if your car has the linkage /cables etc. Have you tried adjusting the cable at gearbox end? you might have the box that needs the special tool thing though. worth a try though. there must be a guide somewhere online for doing it. Mines is just a case of putting into 4th gear at box(with the tower),getting someone to hold gearstick agains the stop in 4th position,then unsnap the clip on selector cable,then snap it back into place.and voila



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

Reverse gear is fine. 1st and 2nd are ok 80% of the time. 3rd and 4th 90% and 5th is perfect. I think i'm going to live with the gearing for now. I would say that it gets better after 10 - 15 minutes driving though aswell. I may check gearbox oil.

 

Thanks for your feedback guys - Much appreciated.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:38 PM

Think its your synchros. As i said i have 2 boxes lying here with exact same problem. My personal advice is dont change gearbox oil. On both occasions i did it, it made it much worse, especially with the ford box oil. Its no good for worn syncs!
On one box i was told by tranny specialist to put 5-30 engine oil in it, but it never helped at all. Only thing u can do is repair it & its NOT cheap. £400-£600 total.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:47 PM

I think i'm going to take that advice (don't change gear box oil). The car is still perfectly driveable and i would even go as far as to say its enjoyably so (if a little nuanced!).

 

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