When having the cambelt changed 1l ecoboost would the injectors need to be removed as part of the cambelt job?

What mileage do you change your cam belt ?

45 minutes ago, lukewebb said:

would the injectors need to be removed as part of the cambelt job?

No.

14 minutes ago, Hostahousey said:

What mileage do you change your cam belt ?

Depends on what engine you are referring too.

3 minutes ago, unofix said:

No.

Depends on what engine you are referring too.

1.0l 124ps 100000 miles

25 minutes ago, Hostahousey said:

What mileage do you change your cam belt ?

its just turned 100k

Yes.  The injectors have to be removed before the cam cover can be removed.

16 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

Yes.  The injectors have to be removed before the cam cover can be removed.

Ok Cheers for clarifying, ford said had to replace seals and the injectors were seized so need to replace injectors.......

41 minutes ago, lukewebb said:

Ok Cheers for clarifying, ford said had to replace seals and the injectors were seized so need to replace injectors.......

Replacing the seals is standard. 

But replacing injectors seems a bit suspicious.  Injectors can seize on the 1.0EB, but I would expect a main dealer to have experience removing them without breaking them.

wd40 over night and a slide hammer that is made for removing injectors. 

On 1/5/2023 at 12:54 PM, TomsFocus said:

Replacing the seals is standard. 

But replacing injectors seems a bit suspicious.  Injectors can seize on the 1.0EB, but I would expect a main dealer to have experience removing them without breaking them.

Yes one would presume, but maybe need to push price up as they where the cheapest at £911 for cambelt compared other ford dealer ranging from £1350-£1850 for same job…

I have done a bit of looking about and 3 x injectors for the 1.0 are £250 plus postage and they are Bosch units. You never said how much the garage were adding to the bill?

 

On 1/8/2023 at 2:53 PM, Eatonm112 said:

I have done a bit of looking about and 3 x injectors for the 1.0 are £250 plus postage and they are Bosch units. You never said how much the garage were adding to the bill?

 £1658 in total …

18 hours ago, lukewebb said:

On 1/8/2023 at 2:53 PM, Eatonm112 said:

I have done a bit of looking about and 3 x injectors for the 1.0 are £250 plus postage and they are Bosch units. You never said how much the garage were adding to the bill?

 £1658 in total …

Oh well thats a big chunk they have added. I would ask to see the old fuel injectors as I think they broke them. PS the injector price was from Parts Doc.

 

Did you get a call before they fitted the parts and nearly doubled your bill. Also, they do cam belts a bit I would guess. So, I would have though you would have been warned out the injectors prior to them starting the job?

Mmmm yeah thats abit naughty.

Also i have experienced these injectors getting stuck when trying to swap them out during engine changes, even with the special slide hammer and soaking they seem to fall apart. But when doing a cambelt only the fuel rail needs to be removed, any unsiezed injectors come out with the rail and the siezed ones stay behind in the cylinder head as they are not secured to the rail, only pressed down with spring clips.

What im trying to say is they can be left like this and refitted after timing belt change.

Shame they didnt give you the option.

100'000mls seems a lot of mileage for a cam belt change . 

1 hour ago, Hostahousey said:

100'000mls seems a lot of mileage for a cam belt change . 

It's a lot less miles than Ford originally specified 🤣

22 hours ago, unofix said:

It's a lot less miles than Ford originally specified 🤣

The reason I said that , I have driven two fords with cam belt problems, 

a Ford van 44 +mls  and a RS Turbo with around 40+ mls both cam belts broken.

It really depends on the engine setup and the material quality etc.

Back in my Peugeot days the 2.0 HDI dry belts still looked new after 10 years/100k when I was changing them.  Ford then used Peugeots interval when they started using Peugeots diesel engines.

I guess that's why they stuck with the idea when they moved to the wetbelt in the 1.0EB.  100k is just a nice round number and isn't likely to be covered by the first owner, who will be considering maintenance costs in the first 3 years or so.  I don't think it's actually based on real world 'testing' as such.

I will add that at the same time as the HDI belts were lasting over 100k, the equivalent petrol engine - 2.0 GTi6 - was known for putting a lot of strain on the belts, and they had an interval of just 30k!  As I say, totally depends on the engine.