1 hour ago, iantt said:

are you serious. vw, dont even get me started on vw/audi rubbish and burning oil, coil packs, springs, suspension arms,wheel bearings,  cv boots by the million.electrical faults, clusters,  i could go on and on. 

What is it with CV boots splitting on VAG cars?  Do they just not make them long enough?   Apart from that, all those issues are common on Fords as well though, coil packs are always failing on the Zetec engines, springs snap on everything these days, seen a few ~4/5 year old Mk3 Focus' fail MOT for them on the facebook pages, suspension arms another common Focus issue due to the poor rear bush design, and lets not mention the rear arms lol, clusters are another common fail across the board due to the environmentally friendly solder that has to be used these days.   

I'm not defending VAG either, realistically, I don't think there's much difference between the Focus and Golf in terms of reliability, as said, everything is crap nowadays.  But my personal preference is VAG cars, they feel a bit more 'premium' and like money has been spent to make sure things work from the factory, everything is very smooth, ergonomic and just works.  Whereas the new Fords feel like they've been chucked together cheaply as possible and not even driven before sale.  I'm sure it would've only cost a few pence to get a better clutch feel for example (even a complaint on the £30k RS!).  I get that the VAG group have a lot more money to spend than Ford, but it really does show in the details.

The 1.6 ECOboost was developed as an attempt to compete with other car manufacturers. When the Focus MK2.5 reached its expiration date Ford did only have older naturally aspirated engines while some other manufacturers were offering turbocharged versions for many Years.
 

The old 1.6 Sigma engine was used as a foundation to develop a turbocharged, direct injection version of this engine. This resulted in the 1.6 Sigma GTDI (ECOboost). The 1.6 ECOboost basically replaced the old 2.0 Duratec. However despite the new technology it is still an old engine. The original Sigma engine was introduced in 1995 when fuel economy was not that important. Because of the old design the 1.6 ECOboost is not the most fuel efficient engine.

During a small production period (2011 --> 2014) the 1.6 ECOboost received several technical changes. At some point even the complete design of the cilinder head was changed (in 2012). Because of the technical changes there are basically several different versions of the 1.6 ECOboost. The Fiesta MK7.5 ST has a slightly different version of the 1.6 ECOboost (this version was produced a little longer until Ford stopped the production of the Fiesta MK7.5 ST).

In 2014 Ford introduced the 1.5 GTDI as a replacement for the 1.6 GTDI. The 1.5 GTDI is basically a further development of the 1.6 GTDI. The displacement was reduced for markets where the tax is related to the engine displacement (For example China). The 1.5 ECOboost has a few technical changes like for example a computer controlled waterpump clutch, a watercooled intercooler and an integrated exhaust manifold. These technical changes were needed to meet the emission regulations. The 1.5 ECOboost also had a relative small production period (2014 --> 2018).

As a replacement for the old 1.6 Duratec, 1.6 Duratec TI-VCT and 1.8 Duratec Ford developed an all new turbocharged, direct injected 3-cilinder engine. This engine has a displacement of 1.0 liter and belongs to the Fox engine family. This engine is an all new cast iron design engine block with integrated exhaust manifold, low inertia turbocharger, direct fuel injection. wetbelt driven variable displacement oil pump, wetbelt driven camshaft and 3-stage cooling system.

The 1.0 ECOboost turned out to be a big success. It was announced Engine of the Year for 6 times in a row. 

At a later time Ford also added a non turbocharged version to this engine family which was used on the Fiesta MK7.5. The non turbocharged version of the 1.0 Fox engine replaced the old 1.25 Duratec engine.

 

Right now the old 4-cilinder 1.5 GTDI is going to be replaced by an all new turbocharged, direct injected 3-cilinder engine. This engine has a displacement of 1.5 liter and belongs to the Dragon engine family. This engine is an all new aluminum design with integrated exhaust manifold, low inertia mixed flow turbocharger and combines both port fuel injection and direct fuel injection. Another new feature will be cilinder deactivation technology. Under light load the engine will run on only 2 cilinders.

 

 

Both the 1.6/1.5 ECOboost and the 1.0 ECOboost were a big success worldwide. Ford literally sold milions of these engines. The 1.0 ECOboost alone was a real good seller. In Europe since the introduction of the 1.0 ECOboost in 2012 over 33% has a 1.0 ECOboost engine. Ford literally sold milions of these engines.

Considering these figures the numbers of engines that suffer from serious failures are really low. Compared to the sale figures the number of engines that sufferfrom serious failures is well under 1‰.

On ‎6‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 8:34 AM, JustAnotherName said:

Almost every ford car made after 2010 has a huge chance of going south, basically, it will, just a matter of time. From bad head gaskets to various transmission failures ( if you got automatic ), fuel pumps made from bad parts, shuddering ( not only due to the clutch but other factors too ), electronic failures across the board, probably could find more if i had will, which i don't have anymore loved ford, despite everyone saying don't buy it, i did, i saw, i lost,... to hell with ford.

I suggest you don't get a Merc, BMW or VAG car....  they struggle to reach 4 years !!!!  

 

meet the modern world DTF

Hello guys,

First of all sorry for my english but it's not my mother tongue.

I got a Firsta ST200 from December 2016. 4 weeks ago during driving appeard low oil pressure indicator. I stopped a car and after transportation to the service the diagnosis have been that there're a non iron scraps in oil sump. The ford procedures say that at that stage whole engine is to replace. Cost is circa 35 kpln and its equal to 7,5 kgbp. Has anybody got a similar problem in 2,5 year old car with 64 kkm (ca 40 kmiles). It's 6 months after guarantee period 😞

11 minutes ago, mgrmar said:

Hello guys,

First of all sorry for my english but it's not my mother tongue.

I got a Firsta ST200 from December 2016. 4 weeks ago during driving appeard low oil pressure indicator. I stopped a car and after transportation to the service the diagnosis have been that there're a non iron scraps in oil sump. The ford procedures say that at that stage whole engine is to replace. Cost is circa 35 kpln and its equal to 7,5 kgbp. Has anybody got a similar problem in 2,5 year old car with 64 kkm (ca 40 kmiles). It's 6 months after guarantee period 😞

How long is the warranty (guarantee) in your country?  It's 3 years over here, I thought it was 3 years anywhere in Europe?

They probably are right, if the engine was driven with low oil pressure even for a short distance it will ruin major internal components.  That price is mad though, I'd expect it to be about half of that for a full engine replacement with a reconditioned unit.

 

17 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

How long is the warranty (guarantee) in your country?  It's 3 years over here, I thought it was 3 years anywhere in Europe?

They probably are right, if the engine was driven with low oil pressure even for a short distance it will ruin major internal components.  That price is mad though, I'd expect it to be about half of that for a full engine replacement with a reconditioned unit.

 

Unfortunately Polish guarantee is only 24 months. 

Just now, mgrmar said:

Unfortunately Polish guarantee is only 24 months. 

Oh, that really is a shame.   If you didn't have any aftermarket warranty either I don't think you've got any other choice than to fix it yourself.  You should be able to find a used engine and have a smaller garage (not dealer) fit it for much less than your original price though.

3 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Oh, that really is a shame.   If you didn't have any aftermarket warranty either I don't think you've got any other choice than to fix it yourself.  You should be able to find a used engine and have a smaller garage (not dealer) fit it for much less than your original price though.

By now I fight with Ford Poland in order to force them to take care about the issue.

strange document for the UK... at the top

 

Passenger Vehicle WARRANTY

FORD MOTOR COMPANY LIMITED (Ford) gives to you, the customer, a Ford Direct Warranty

(Warranty) that, subject to the exclusions and on the further terms and conditions set

out below, your Ford Direct Vehicle will be free of failure due to manufacturing or material

defects for 24 months, commencing on the date shown on your Warranty Registration

document. Your Warranty also includes facilities for vehicle recovery.

DEFINITIONS

Company means Ford Motor Company Limited, Eagle Way, Brentwood, Essex, CM13 3BW.

 

whilst at the bottom

 

8. GENERAL

8.1 The Ford Direct Warranty is an addition to, and does not detract from, the Ford

3-year/60,000 mile Ford Base Warranty or the rights you have under statute or at

common law.

8.2 If you cancel your Warranty, Ford shall not be obliged to make any refund.

8.3 The Ford Direct Warranty is attached to the vehicle and will remain applicable if the

vehicle is transferred to a new owner who must advise their details to Ford Protect

Customer Services at the address shown below.

8.4 Notices relating to this Warranty and required hereunder shall be in writing and

shall be sent by letter post: In the case of notices to the Company, to Ford Protect

Customer Services, Ford Customer Service Division (1/672), Eagle Way, Brentwood,

Essex CM13 3BW. In the case of notices to you, to your usual or last known place of

residence (in the case of an individual) or business, and shall be deemed to have

been received 48 hours after the time of posting.

 https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/documents/home/buy-and-protect/warranties/FD-Terms-Conditions-Car-11-08.pdf I'd double check the Polish dealer isn't playing a fast one... there's this thing called the European Union where most rules and regs are the same....

In most European countries Ford only offers a 2 Year warranty as standard. 

35 minutes ago, JW1982 said:

In most European countries Ford only offers a 2 Year warranty as standard. 

They obviously don't have much faith in their build quality...  

I wonder why it's 3 in the UK then?  Are most other cars only 2 in the rest of Europe as they seem to all be 3+ over here?