Hi,

!Newbie here with little knowledge!

I've recently returned to the Uk and brought my Italian Ford Fiesta 2014 1.5 TDCi Titanium with me. I want to reregister it in the Uk.

Today I went to the scrapyard to pick up headlights and foglight light and a speedometer to change them over before I reregister the car ready for M-O-T.

The car only reads in kmh amd therefore I need to change the clocks. 

However the man in the scrapyard told me that the speedo was registered to the ECU and it would not work just changing the clock unit.

Could anyone tell me how do I this ? Do I need to go to a Ford dealer to match the km to miles and make the unit work? I hope not. Is there an independent who could do this for me? I am living South of Manchester.

Thanks in advance for any replies,

Tom

 

section 7.8 of the MOT manual mentions the speedo. It does not say it needs to be in mph as far as I can see. Of course I can see why it might be handy to have it in mph. 

I too believe it would need programming of some kind but I have no idea how. 

Did you buy the speedo? what about this (bit fiddly): take front off each speedo, prise the speedo needle off. swap the  plastic (flexible vinyl?)bit with the speed markings printed on it.

Many people modding their cars replace that part eg. changing from black to white. Might be a youtube video on how to do it.

Of course it assumes the speed range on both speedos is the same (top speed in mph same as the other when converted to kmh).

I have dismantled a 2008 focus speedo and it was quite easy. Don't know about fiesta of your year.

 

Any auto electrician that knows diagnostics will fix this for you, it's relatively simple to do

2 hours ago, isetta said:

section 7.8 of the MOT manual mentions the speedo. It does not say it needs to be in mph as far as I can see. Of course I can see why it might be handy to have it in mph. 

It's not just the MOT it needs to pass. As it's a 2014 it will need to go through the IVA test. The speedo will need to read mph to pass.

Good point, I have just checked the IVA and it does say it needs the speedo in MPH.

I assumed that all EU vehicles did not need to undergo this but it seems they do. I do not know if things have changed. My brother has an Audi TT which he bought new in Luxembourg in about 1999 when he lived there. he brought it back to UK when 2 or 3 yrs old.  The speedo is in KMH still. He did not need to do this stuff to get it approved.

For MOT he added a fog light on right as it only had one on left and altered headlamp beam (it did not need new headlamps, there was some sort of adjustment you could do on them turning the bulb round a certain number of degrees or something)

UK cars have the speedos in MPH and smaller marking for mph.  why can't cars in the rest of Europe also show MPH in smaller figures. Do they think someone on mainland Europe will never drive that car in the UK eg. on holiday.

If it was me, I would still be tempted to change the printed vinyl sheet thing inside the speedo rather than pay someone to sort it out. Does anyone know if you can do it with Forscan and a ELM327 fault code reader.

If the breakers yard man was willing to sell it, I'd have bought it and tried it anyway. Its not the 1st time an expert's been wrong. 

Thanks for replies. I've decided to buy a second hand set of clocks and try and take the speedometer apart and change the fascia.

let us know how it goes.  Looked into this further, it looks to me like the part with the numbers printed on is all one part, not separate for each dial. Not sure how much risk there is in prising needles off etc.  I might be tempted to just swap the speedo part, cutting that part off with stanley knife . The plastic front surround part would hide the cut if cut in the right place.

I have noticed on mk8 Fiestas the Speedos are very different. In the UK the speedo is symmetrical, whereas on EU Youtube videos the graduations are much larger on lower speeds than higher speeds.

Not sure if this is the same with mk7.5 cars.  If it is then just a facia swap will not work.  Can you just change the ratio at the gearbox take off as that will also correct the odometer / tripmeter too. 

I might be totally wrong but I was under the impression that the speedo these days does not have any take off point from the gearbox but works from the abs sensors. Part of my reason for saying this is that I was trying to sort out a ESP problem on a Focus. I took the ABS fuse out and the speedo stopped working. 

Does anyone know for sure.  I know this is going off on a tangent a bit. 

(I know you can buy mechanical KMH to MPH converters for cable driven speedos on motorbikes- like a tiny little gearbox)

Speedos are indeed driven by the ABS system now...  So in theory he could change the tyres to the 'wrong' rolling radius to get the KPH reading...  

On 1/21/2020 at 8:17 AM, isetta said:

UK cars have the speedos in MPH and smaller marking for kph.  why can't cars in the rest of Europe also show MPH in smaller figures. Do they think someone on mainland Europe will never drive that car in the UK eg. on holiday.

This is one of the annoyances on the Mk6 Golf platform...there's no smaller KPH numbers on the dial...instead there is a digital KPH readout to comply with UK regs.  Very annoying and unnecessary for 99% of us but it can't be switched to MPH sadly and means the cruise control reading covers the mileage reading when in operation as there's no other space.

I didn't realise the opposite regs didn't apply in Europe, although tbf I don't think many people are travelling to drizzly, grey England for a holiday from St Tropez!!