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Need advice on timing belt

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Good afternoon! Sorry for my English ... I'm from Ukraine, I wanted to know what they think about one issue in Europe.

My car is a Ford Mondeo 4 (1.6 liters duratec, 2012). The service book states that you need to change the timing belt every 160 thousand kilometers or 8 years.

This year the car turned 8 years old, but the mileage is only 70 thousand kilometers.

Is it time to change the timing belt due to age?
Do I need to change the water pump?
Do I need to adjust valve clearances?

Thank you very much for the answers.

Have a nice day everyone!



8 hours ago, ZORRO9 said:

Good afternoon! Sorry for my English ... I'm from Ukraine, I wanted to know what they think about one issue in Europe.

My car is a Ford Mondeo 4 (1.6 liters duratec, 2012). The service book states that you need to change the timing belt every 160 thousand kilometers or 8 years.

This year the car turned 8 years old, but the mileage is only 70 thousand kilometers.

Is it time to change the timing belt due to age?
Do I need to change the water pump?
Do I need to adjust valve clearances?

Thank you very much for the answers.

Have a nice day everyone!

I'd definitely recommend that you have the belt done because the service interval is mileage OR years, some other manufacturers have even shorter intervals for a timing belt change and if the belt (or more likely the tensioner) fails, you'll be looking for a replacement engine.  If you get the belt, tensioner and pump done then you've got piece of mind going forward and you can enjoy your car without worrying if the engine is going to go boom.

 

Regarding valve clearances, I don't remember ever seeing a thread on here about it (I've been on here for a few years) so I'd be leaning towards you not needing to worry about it.

 

@iantt has access to Ford workshop data so I've tagged him as he'll probably be able to say yes/no for definite regarding the valve clearance question.

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@1979Damian thanks for your answer :-)

The valve clearances tend not to alter, there's no harm in checking them if you want but the procedure for altering them is time consuming and expensive. Today's modern engines have more robust valves and valve seats . No one checks them anymore unless there noisey. 

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@iantt thanks :-) 

 

Is it dangerous not to change the water pump? If then it fails, will you have to change the timing belt again?
On my m
otor, the water pump rotates from the attachment belt. (I don’t know what it is called in English, so I’ll add a photo).

 

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7 minutes ago, ZORRO9 said:

@iantt thanks 🙂

 

Is it dangerous not to change the water pump? If then it fails, will you have to change the timing belt again?
On my m
otor, the water pump rotates from the attachment belt. (I don’t know what it is called in English, so I’ll add a photo).

 

573935968_.thumb.jpg.7340cbb5ed8ceaf13b7d221cc960bce6.jpg

Although I'm not mechanically familiar with your specific engine, the basic principle for cam belt changes is always change the water pump otherwise you end up paying for another load of garage labour if it starts to fail/leak at a later date (post cam belt change).  There are some exceptions to the rule where the water pump can be changed without interfering with the cam belt but these engines are very much the exception.

 

A decent quality pump doesn't usually cost that much relative to the overall labour cost for a cam belt and tensioner change.

2 minutes ago, 1979Damian said:

Although I'm not mechanically familiar with your specific engine, the basic principle for cam belt changes is always change the water pump otherwise you end up paying for another load of garage labour if it starts to fail/leak at a later date (post cam belt change).  There are some exceptions to the rule where the water pump can be changed without interfering with the cam belt but these engines are very much the exception.

 

A decent quality pump doesn't usually cost that much relative to the overall labour cost for a cam belt and tensioner change.

It's a 1.6 Ti-VCT in the OP's car.  Based on the old 1.6 Zetec engine of the Mk2 Focus so in this case the waterpump is run off the aux belt.  You can change it without removing the cambelt although you need some sort of tensioning tool to do it...as I have been corrected on in the past!

Personally I wouldn't bother replacing the waterpump unless it's leaking...you might introduce more problems using a pattern part than if you'd just left it.  That is just my opinion though!

6 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

It's a 1.6 Ti-VCT in the OP's car.  Based on the old 1.6 Zetec engine of the Mk2 Focus so in this case the waterpump is run off the aux belt.  You can change it without removing the cambelt although you need some sort of tensioning tool to do it...as I have been corrected on in the past!

Personally I wouldn't bother replacing the waterpump unless it's leaking...you might introduce more problems using a pattern part than if you'd just left it.  That is just my opinion though!

With the pump being run off of an aux belt rather than the cam belt I'd also be inclined to just leave it alone (unless I could source a Ford/Gates pump cheaply).  At least (on this engine) if the op doesn't do the pump with the cam belt change but has to do it at a later date due to a fault/failure, there isn't the full labour cost of a cam belt change to pay for a second time.

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@1979Damian@TomsFocus thanks for the help :-)

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Good afternoon!

I continue to study the issue and prepare for spring maintenance.

A new question has arisen: is it necessary to change the crankshaft oil seal and two camshaft oil seals when replacing the timing belt, if they are dry?

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