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Signed and sent a link to our local MP. 

We only live 2 miles away from junction 30 of the M1 where one of those awful incidents occurred. 

That stretch of motorway was bad enough before it was converted into a so called " Smart" motorway.

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Imagine being on the outside lane of a normal motorway and your car cuts out, you have a fair chance of getting to the hard shoulder on the left but it’s still a very dangerous situation. What IDIOT decided to make a SMART MOTORWAY where there are NO HARD SHOULDERS at all. A massive car pile up is sure to happen if a car cuts out in ANY lane.

I have just signed this petition and hope everyone else does.

Dave

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Still only 183 signatures when I looked just now. Looks as if only us and our friends are signing!😀

I would have thought this would have a lot of support, but I guess the problem is getting it publicised, preferably by a well-known name.. There is one running at the moment to stop HS 2. That has Chris Packhams name behind it and gathered the 100,000 signatures needed for a Parliamentary debate in a couple of days.

I see South Yorkshire Police are reviewing the coroner's files following the recent verdict of unlawful killing in the 2019  M1 incident, to establish it there is a case for a criminal prosecution to be brought.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ne!ws/uk-england-south-yorkshire-56069507

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At the risk of upsetting people in another petition thread...  I don't really get why a smart motorway is any more dangerous than a dual carriageway?  I've probably only ever driven on a road with a hard shoulder once as there are no motorways in Suffolk, just dual carriageways...speed limits are the same and if anything traffic is heavier due to the lack of lanes! :unsure:

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23 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

  I don't really get why a smart motorway is any more dangerous than a dual carriageway? 

We're really talking about " smart" versus conventional motorway here, but that's a very reasonable point, Tom, though in my experience most dual carriageways outside towns tend to have a grass verge at the side and/or between the two sets of lanes, which you can get onto in an emergency. 

I, like many others it seems, feel that "smart" motorways are less safe than the conventional ones, all other things being equal. I mention that because defenders of "smart" motorways often state that "other measures" make them as safe as conventional ones, but fail to apply the logic that if you add the "other measures" to conventional motorways, they would be safer still.

 

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54 minutes ago, Dave May said:

Why don’t we all put it on Facebook that should get it moving.

Dave

 

Good point. I'm not on Facebook myself but no doubt many on here will be.

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Thanks for posting the link Eric, just signed now. 

I fully agree with the comments here, Smart Motorways are deathtraps!

The amount of times I've been in lane 1 following an hgv and suddenly the hgv has had to swerve severely into lane 2 as he has only just noticed a stationery vehicle in front of him  end result is because that happens so quick and because I can't see in front of the hgv in front of me I am suddenly faced with that stationery vehicle.

Good job I keep safe distance, but what a stupid idea smart motorways are.

Also the amount of times you see lane 1 and 2 half empty with everyone in lane 3.

Makes you wonder sometimes if we need that extra lane called the hard shoulder for anything other than a hard shoulder 🙂

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I was a bit puzzled by this comment in the RAC article, which was also reported elsewhere in the media:

 

Mr Shapps told MPs that reversing work on smart motorways would mean acquiring land the equivalent of 700 Wembley stadium-sized football pitches, destroying swathes of Green Belt and buying up people's homes.

 

I'm assuming he meant if we left the 4 lanes in place and then added a hard shoulder? If you just converted the fourth lane back to a hard shoulder it wouldn't be necessary. 

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29 minutes ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

I was a bit puzzled by this comment in the RAC article, which was also reported elsewhere in the media:

 

Mr Shapps told MPs that reversing work on smart motorways would mean acquiring land the equivalent of 700 Wembley stadium-sized football pitches, destroying swathes of Green Belt and buying up people's homes.

 

I'm assuming he meant if we left the 4 lanes in place and then added a hard shoulder? If you just converted the fourth lane back to a hard shoulder it wouldn't be necessary. 

Yeah. That's what I thought too. It would be the easiest and quickest way to simply revert back to the original layout. 

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