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Mo6 fiesta won’t start after running out of fuel

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My mk6 fiesta ran out of fuel so filled it up and now it won’t start is there anyone that can help/advise on her 



petrol or diesel 

55 minutes ago, dezwez said:

petrol or diesel 

The OP has just gone away to check !! 🤔

Obviously not that urgent a request - he may have got a lift to his local showroom to buy a battery car!

Funny thing is that the OP was still on line when Dezwez asked that complex question.

Well, I'm guessing it was petrol, and he 'cured' it by continuously trying it so that the new fuel eventually reached all the parts it should have, and it miraculously just started, and he's just too embarrassed or lazy to update us all  🤣

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3 hours ago, dezwez said:

petrol or diesel 

Petrol

keep turning it over till it starts or you may have a faulty fuel pump🙂

4 minutes ago, Bigdaddk29 said:

Petrol

If it's still not starting, I would try a few more times to ensure the pump has circulated the fuel round to the engine. Running out will have maybe caused some contaminates at the bottom of the fuel tank to make it difficult for the petrol to ignite. If you try starting a few times and still no luck, time to call a garage!

Long shot but worth a try...press the fuel shut off button behind the glovebox.

5 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

Long shot but worth a try...press the fuel shut off button behind the glovebox.

I'm kinda guessing the OP may need a picture for that!

OP has gone again. Think they've used up all their word allowance for today.

I expect that if they follow the engine start procedure for a flooded engine and it will most likely start.

All they need to do is press and hold the accelerator pedal firmly to the floor and keep it there while trying to start the engine. Only release the accelerator once the engine has fired up.

8 minutes ago, unofix said:

I expect that if they follow the engine start procedure for a flooded engine and it will most likely start.

 

Only us oldies will remember that from the days of a manual choke 😅

8 minutes ago, StephenFord said:

Only us oldies will remember that from the days of a manual choke 😅

he shy 🙂

13 minutes ago, unofix said:

All they need to do is press and hold the accelerator pedal firmly to the floor and keep it there while trying to start the engine. Only release the accelerator once the engine has fired up.

I think that procedure is electronically built into some modern cars to act the same as it did for a manual system for a flooded engine, either that or It maybe that it is not on his car and he made the mistake of pressing the accelerator when trying to start and flooded it.

I've not run out of petrol myself but rescued some people and the cars started no problem within a few seconds just by starting normally.

2 minutes ago, Tizer said:

I've not run out of petrol myself but rescued some people and the cars started no problem within a few seconds just by starting normally.

I have only ever run out once, 40 odd years ago in an XR2. Once the gallon can was emptied back in, she fired up 1st time (though I did crank her up for a bit!), they knew how to build cars in those days 🤣

Edit for future reference, copy of instructions from my manual. That will not apply if the engine is flooded though.



Running out of fuel can cause damage not covered by the vehicle Warranty.
If your vehicle runs out of fuel:
  • Add a minimum of 1.3 gal (5 L) of fuel to restart the engine.
  • You may need to switch the ignition from off to on several times after refueling to allow the fuel system to pump the fuel from the tank to the engine.When restarting, cranking time takes a few seconds longer than normal.
Note:   If your vehicle is on a steep slope, more fuel may be required.
1 minute ago, Tizer said:

Edit for future reference, copy of instructions from my manual. That will not apply if the engine is flooded though.



Running out of fuel can cause damage not covered by the vehicle Warranty.
If your vehicle runs out of fuel:
  • Add a minimum of 1.3 gal (5 L) of fuel to restart the engine.
  • You may need to switch the ignition from off to on several times after refueling to allow the fuel system to pump the fuel from the tank to the engine.When restarting, cranking time takes a few seconds longer than normal.
Note:   If your vehicle is on a steep slope, more fuel may be required.

Wow, you'd think the folk on this forum knew what they were talking about LOL

no they dont 😄

With FBW throttle and electronic injectors the PCM will completely ignore your throttle pedal input until the engine is running.  It's almost impossible to flood a modern engine due to this.

Cycling the ignition for the lift pump is the way to go after running out of fuel as Tizer posted.  Or if you've got a diesel without a lift pump, you'll need to get the hand pump out!

I agree with what you say Tom, but I'm sure if the engine is flooded and you do hold the throttle pedal while cranking then there is something built into the PCM to recognise that the engine is flooded and adjust the Injection and throttle opening for a period to clear things out before going back to normal to start the engine.

It was a problem years ago when things started to become electronic and that logic was built into cars then. It may not be now, I'm not certain but it would be silly if it was not.

4 hours ago, StephenFord said:

I'm kinda guessing the OP may need a picture for that!

Just in case it helps anyone else in future, the fuel cut off is a bright yellow button on the left hand side behind the glovebox.  (Exact opposite on LHD cars).  Most people will never need to use it, but they can occasionally be triggered by the sharp shock of a pothole, as well as the primary function of accident damage.

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1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

Just in case it helps anyone else in future, the fuel cut off is a bright yellow button on the left hand side behind the glovebox.  (Exact opposite on LHD cars).  Most people will never need to use it, but they can occasionally be triggered by the sharp shock of a pothole, as well as the primary function of accident damage.

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Hi Tom, is the fuel cut-off switch accessible without taking the glovebox out? The last, and only, time I took the glovebox out it was a pain in the butt to squeeze the sides sufficiently to get it pivoting down low enough to access the hinge pins......

11 hours ago, martinf64 said:

Hi Tom, is the fuel cut-off switch accessible without taking the glovebox out? The last, and only, time I took the glovebox out it was a pain in the butt to squeeze the sides sufficiently to get it pivoting down low enough to access the hinge pins......

This is for the Mk6 Fiesta.  Yes you can reach the switch without dropping the glovebox.

I'm guessing yours is a Mk8 Fiesta?  In that case, the fuel shut off is electronic, with a reset procedure in the handbook.  There's no longer a physical button in those.

10 hours ago, TomsFocus said:

This is for the Mk6 Fiesta.  Yes you can reach the switch without dropping the glovebox.

I'm guessing yours is a Mk8 Fiesta?  In that case, the fuel shut off is electronic, with a reset procedure in the handbook.  There's no longer a physical button in those.

Yep, its a MK8. Didn't realise that and I'm one of those who have actual been through the handbook...a bit of light bedtime reading 🤣

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