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All-season tyres


Johnsmalley
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Daughter's Fiesta was fitted all round with Michelin Cross Climate all-season tyres. At MOT the garage found a cut in sidewall of one and replaced it with normal non-all-season tyre. A few weeks later one of the others picked up a large nail which also damaged the sidewalk and that was replaced with non-all-season tyre. Should the all-season tyres be moved to the rear?

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Interesting question, not a simple answer IMO.

New tyres should be fitted on the rear as that reduces the risk of a blowout.  You still have some steering control over the fronts if they were to blow out.

However, cheap summer tyres probably have less grip than Cross-Climates, so for general driving, they'd be better off on the front, reducing the risk of over-steer.

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Cross climates only really come into effect below 15 degrees ambient

BUT, they grip better in the wet, full stop.

Mixing all season with summer, winter with summer etc is not recommended. It's a bit like mixing cross ply with radials years ago. But the issue won't be noticeable until it rains heavy or goes below about 7 degrees ambient

But if you must keep them, put them on the front to improve grip and reduce understeer. But I would replace to all the same

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I would be tempted to take it back and insist they swap out the summer tyres for all-season. The general advice from the manufacturers is not to mix tyre types. It won't be horrendous with the Cross Climates as they are more like a summer tyre with a strong winter bias, but personally I'd not be happy if they put summer tyres on with my existing Cross Climates.

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31 minutes ago, iantt said:

all season tyre

Yes some decent all season tyres are whats needed 😉

All Season.JPG

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50 minutes ago, unofix said:

Yes some decent all season tyres are whats needed 😉

All Season.JPG

Only for the rear wheels though. 

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1 minute ago, iantt said:

Only for the rear wheels though. 

Yes I noticed that, you need a nice set of crossply for the front 🤣

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Perhaps one crossply, one winter, one summer and one all-seasons tyre would work. Then you'll be prepared for any situation. 

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47 minutes ago, erictcleric said:

Perhaps one crossply, one winter, one summer and one all-seasons tyre would work. Then you'll be prepared for any situation. 

Where's the mud and snow tyre going? In the boot. 

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Reading Tom's post and DaveT's posts above I think they aren't quite agreeing with each other. 

This IS an interesting conundrum as you have got to decide whether the grippiest tyres should be on the back or the front, but THEN you've got to make an assessment of whether used all-season tyres are grippier than new 'summer' tyres. My assessment would be that you'll only ever get close to losing grip on a cold, wet day. So the all-seasons are the grippiest tyres in practice.

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22 hours ago, Johnsmalley said:

Daughter's Fiesta was fitted all round with Michelin Cross Climate all-season tyres. At MOT the garage found a cut in sidewall of one and replaced it with normal non-all-season tyre. A few weeks later one of the others picked up a large nail which also damaged the sidewalk and that was replaced with non-all-season tyre. Should the all-season tyres be moved to the rear?

Why did the garage in question replace the tyres without consent in the first place and more importantly why did THEY decide NOT to replace them like for like? 

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I have cross climate 2 on the front of my fiesta. It's not true that they are very good in the wet compared to Summer tyres. 

 

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