Hello all, I have just recently purchased a ford fiesta st line ecoboost 1.0 2021, I have been reading various posts and articles on here about belt or chain timing belts. I was wondering what my engine has as it doesn't appear to have the turbo at the front of the engine as some have. The model I have is not the mHEV 125 hybrid. I have attached a photo of the engine, I apologise if my pic is not upright it's my first attempt posting a photo.

It has a timing chain, but still has a wet belt to drive the oil pump.

Thanks for the reply  unofix , I did think this after reading some of the posts, I was under the impression that all the 1.0 ecoboost engines had wet belt timing chains, I guess not. Maybe  the 2021 version was the first ones of this type. I was just wondering as I am still learning about my car. Thanks again.

4 hours ago, steveg19 said:

The model I have is not the mHEV 125 hybrid. 

Hi Steve, could you confirm what exact model you do have to contribute to our "knowledge base", as it were?

Originally it was thought that all Ecoboosts went to the revised (chain cam) engine around the time MHEV appeared in the Fiesta, but then it emerged that the 100ps had continued with the wet belt.

It was then thought that all revised 125ps were MHEV, but we now know that several members have revised engines in 125s but non-MHEV. It sounds (and looks like, from your pic) as if yours is one of these?

 

Hey

That is the later chain-driven version, but still has a WET oil belt 😞

2 minutes ago, MustangV8 said:

That is the later chain-driven version, but still has a WET oil belt

You're 4 hours too late with that answer. I already said that. 🤔

4 hours ago, unofix said:

It has a timing chain, but still has a wet belt to drive the oil pump.

 

Hi Eric Bloodaxe, just to confirm I have a 1.0 ecoboost st line , that was registered in February 2021, at the time of buying I had no idea of the different belt drives or engine types, I just liked the car. Only since joining this forum and reading up on the car have I come to realise that their is different versions. 

29 minutes ago, steveg19 said:

Hi Eric Bloodaxe, just to confirm I have a 1.0 ecoboost st line , that was registered in February 2021, at the time of buying I had no idea of the different belt drives or engine types, I just liked the car. Only since joining this forum and reading up on the car have I come to realise that their is different versions. 

And is it a 125?

No, it's not. If that helps 

5 hours ago, steveg19 said:

No, it's not. If that helps 

Not unless you tell us what it IS!😀

To be honest I bought the car because I liked the looks of it and it's in great condition,  I never looked that much into it. I think it's only a 95 bhp I'm not even sure what Mk it is 7. 7.5 or 8 how do you tell?

1 hour ago, steveg19 said:

. I think it's only a 95 bhp I'm not even sure what Mk it is 7. 7.5 or 8 how do you tell?

A 2021 would be a Mk 8.

If it is 95 with a revised engine that would be interesting.

I would have expected your sales or insurance documentation would say what power it was. 

However, a way to confirm is your V5 registration document. Under vehicle details look for item P2, max power kw. It will give a figure in kw. 1kw=approx 1.36 PS so we can work it out from there. A 95PS would be about 70kw.

1 hour ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

However, a way to confirm is your V5 registration document.

I'm sure it will tell you on the Plate on the Door Pillar as well, the one with the VIN No etc.

Hello lads, your both right, the v5 doc says 69kw and the plate on the pillar says 70kw/95ps. Well we got there in the end, cheers for the Mk 8 info 👍

It's also an ST-Line Edition, which is slightly different to an ST-Line.  

I'm not up with the Fiesta specs but the Focus got different headlights on the 'Edition' trims for example.

Ho no TomsFocus, is that a good thing or a bad thing 🤣. There's  more to owning a Ford than meets the eye.

Interesting!

Iirc the lower powered ecoboost went from 100ps to 95ps and then back again for a relatively short while in 2020/21. I wonder if this coincided with the revised engine being used?

So far then, I think we've seen the original "wet" belt engines in 100, 125, and 140ps forms, the 95 and 125 in revised form (chain cam drive) but non-MHEV, and 125 and 155 revised with MHEV.

48 minutes ago, TomsFocus said:

It's also an ST-Line Edition, which is slightly different to an ST-Line.  

I'm not up with the Fiesta specs but the Focus got different headlights on the 'Edition' trims for example.

About this time the Fiesta ST-Line and ST-Line X Edition appeared but the regular ST-Line and X disappeared from the price list, but as far as I could see they were the same thing. Focus could be a different story. Ford have tweaked the specs/nomenclature so many times since the Mk 8 came out in late 2017 that it's hard to be sure about anything anymore!😀

One thing that does seem sure is that from near the end of the pre-facelift Mk 8, stuff seemed to disappear with a vengeance and the process continued with the facelift Mk 8.5 as I mentioned on another thread.

Very bad pictures but compare the handbrake lever on the ST with my previous ST-Line X for example!

 

1 hour ago, Eric Bloodaxe said:

About this time the Fiesta ST-Line and ST-Line X Edition appeared but the regular ST-Line and X disappeared from the price list, but as far as I could see they were the same thing. Focus could be a different story. Ford have tweaked the specs/nomenclature so many times since the Mk 8 came out in late 2017 that it's hard to be sure about anything anymore!

😀

Yes, the Edition trims technically replaced the 'non-Edition' trims but they were slightly different.

On the Focus, halogens were upgraded to fixed LEDs.  And on the Vignale, adaptive LEDs became standard.  (Previously a £1000 option!)

There were other minor differences too, though the lights were the main one.

I'd be very surprised if there weren't noticable changes on the Fiesta as well.

1 hour ago, TomsFocus said:

I'd be very surprised if there weren't noticable changes on the Fiesta as well.

I didn't spot anything on the lights, but I think the ST-L X Edition did get the odd thing that was previously an option, eg 18s, keyless entry and B&O. In retrospect, in looks as if around that time was the "high point" specs-wise - they've been taking stuff out since then!