penguims Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I have Petrol 1.4 2008 ztec Fusion and i was doing too much research to find out if i can add power folding mirrors to my fusion and found not much so hoping here i will! i've bought a folding mirror control knob thing and a pair of folding mirrors for the fiesta mk6 ( i know its for the mk6 but they look identical and fit well ), ive fitted everything and i used forscan to enable the power folding option and in the end they dont work? could someone guide me into what i do next! 馃槃聽 聽Does anyone know how i can add them, my existing mirrors are the basic entry electric controlled mirrors 馃檪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Have you checked the door wiring to see if any of the pins are missing compared to the mirror plugs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, TomsFocus said: Have you checked the door wiring to see if any of the pins are missing compared to the mirror plugs? Hey, they both have the same nubmer of connectors and positions, many thanks 馃槃聽 聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Is the relay fitted in the fusebox? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Is the relay fitted in the fusebox? Im not too sure about this one, im not sure what fuse or relay i should be looking at? would you know where i could find where it should be聽 i feel like it probably doesnt have a relay for it but im sure it might be able to fit it, to which plug im not sure 馃槃聽many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsFocus Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Might be quickest for you to post a picture of your fuse box lol. I think mirrors are the large square relay in the far corner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, TomsFocus said: Might be quickest for you to post a picture of your fuse box lol. I think mirrors are the large square relay in the far corner. here it is 馃槃聽 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Possibly relay 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 is there a special type of relay i need for it to enable the folding thing, that replaces the relay in R10 many thanks 馃槃聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 15 minutes ago, penguims said: is there a special type of relay i need for it to enable the folding thing, that replaces the relay in R10 Not that I'm aware of. There is only one relay called up in the parts list for relay 10 What does make a difference is the Drivers Door Module. As far as I know only the DDR on cars with rear electric windows has the function for power fold mirrors. Does your car have front and rear power windows ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, unofix said: Not that I'm aware of. There is only one relay called up in the parts list for relay 10 What does make a difference is the Drivers Door Module. As far as I know only the DDR on cars with rear electric windows has the function for power fold mirrors. Does your car have front and rear power windows ? Hey, no most fusions are hand driven rear windows but electric front windows聽 many thanks 馃槃聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 i cleaned the control knob and it was a bit wet and forscan said something like "power folding control grounded or shorted" so there must be a module and power going to the folding controller perhaps? 馃槃聽it didnt work before i cleaned it, so maybe it could be the folding mirrors i bought brand new but probs not but deffo probably why its not working maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I have very limited information, so I'm basing my thoughts on the Fiesta and the way in which they were configured. Perhaps FUSION owners with power fold mirrors could confirm if they also have rear power windows. ? 聽 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 here is the聽code thing 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 just my thinking it wouldnt be grounded if it didnt have a relay and power so indiacting the mirrors that cost like a tonne to buy are probably at fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Possible the mirrors are not compatible with your wiring. With a bit of careful investigation you should be able to work out which 2 wires are for the motor that does the folding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 If you unplug both mirrors and clear the fault code on FORScan and then re-run the module test, FORScan should then say the mirror relay circuit is "Open Circuit" If you can identity the wires for the mirror folding motor then you can test that they work by applying 12V to make the motor operate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguims Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, unofix said: If you unplug both mirrors and clear the fault code on FORScan and then re-run the module test, FORScan should then say the mirror relay circuit is "Open Circuit" If you can identity the wires for the mirror folding motor then you can test that they work by applying 12V to make the motor operate. how could i test that the connectors are supplying / giving power for folding and unfolding? should i use a mutlimeter and probe the two wires , many thanks 馃槃聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I assume that the new mirrors will have two extra wires that the original mirrors did not have. These will be the connection to the power fold motor. If you momentarily connect 12 volts to those wires it should activate the motor that folds the mirror. Reversing the connection to those two wires should make it run in the opposite direction. Can you post a photo of the plug (showing the connecting pins) of the original mirror and a photo of the plug on the new mirror ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulkp Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Our Fusion Titanium has power folding and heated mirrors, and has manual rear windows. Haynes has zero information on power folding circuitry. Although the control switch enables Open/Fold, by pressing the control knob downwards, the actual open/fold signal must also be initiated by lock/unlock from the GEM I would assume.聽聽 聽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulkp Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 CatCar lists about a dozen different cable assemblies for Fusion doors, and for our car, 1501781 is the fitted cable assembly. I suggest that the OP enters his VIN and sees if it comes up with the same part number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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